tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post115614705252658341..comments2024-03-28T03:15:55.088-04:00Comments on Fetch me my axe: Sound adviceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156814461707418002006-08-28T21:21:00.000-04:002006-08-28T21:21:00.000-04:00Sorry, specification: Learning to discern between...Sorry, <BR/><BR/>specification: Learning to discern between legitimate critique of oppression towards women and analysis who has gone too far.<BR/><BR/>BUt I'm a bit shaken right now, TS really hurt my feelings, but I guess that's ok if she thought I was being threatening, a damaging misunderstanding in terms of my ability to think right now. <BR/><BR/>Oh, E.L Bernays is one of the Key figures Clampetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619789284902512028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156814176544339182006-08-28T21:16:00.000-04:002006-08-28T21:16:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156814159341207142006-08-28T21:15:00.000-04:002006-08-28T21:15:00.000-04:00> If you are going to blame the patriarchy for eve...> If you are going to blame the patriarchy for everything, then why bother with rubbing it in? <BR/><BR/>well, yes, that's some of us others' problem as well.<BR/><BR/>it's not just the patriarchy (abstract notion) or even guys that receive the brunt of this sort of "critique," you see. in point of fact.<BR/><BR/>i don't actually know who E.L. Bernays is.<BR/><BR/>>What’s a good start for belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156812228802411152006-08-28T20:43:00.000-04:002006-08-28T20:43:00.000-04:00"Well, ultimately we none of us -can- actually "ch..."Well, ultimately we none of us -can- actually "change anyone's mind;" there are only more or less effective and/or honest methods of persuasion.<BR/><BR/>Which is ultimately what people are trying to do when they communicate anything at all; even if what they want to persuade the other person to do is no more than "listen to me, what I have to say is worth your time." <BR/><BR/>Valid points. <BRClampetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619789284902512028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156807924761911762006-08-28T19:32:00.000-04:002006-08-28T19:32:00.000-04:00...yeah. radical feminism may or may not be worth ......yeah. radical feminism may or may not be worth the passion and energy spent refuting it; then again one could justifably I think say much the same wrt sports corsets, high heels, voluntary blowjobs, the Spice Girls, individuals having children (particularly divorced from any other context such as actual resources being consumed and the inequities of same), other peoples' amusingly inept belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156799182684430912006-08-28T17:06:00.000-04:002006-08-28T17:06:00.000-04:00"is that all there is...is that all there is...if ..."is that all there is...<BR/><BR/>is that all there is...<BR/><BR/>if that's all there is, my friend,<BR/><BR/>then let's keep daaaaanciiiing...."belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156779126568034822006-08-28T11:32:00.000-04:002006-08-28T11:32:00.000-04:00hijack - yay! you're back!hijack - yay! you're back!antiprincesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06675693687192822141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156766115008816892006-08-28T07:55:00.000-04:002006-08-28T07:55:00.000-04:00Well, ultimately we none of us -can- actually "cha...Well, ultimately we none of us -can- actually "change anyone's mind;" there are only more or less effective and/or honest methods of persuasion.<BR/><BR/>Which is ultimately what people are trying to do when they communicate anything at all; even if what they want to persuade the other person to do is no more than "listen to me, what I have to say is worth your time."belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156737611713445792006-08-28T00:00:00.000-04:002006-08-28T00:00:00.000-04:00See, I think this: "changing people's minds" is on...See, I think this: "changing people's minds" is one of the most immoral things a person can do. <BR/><BR/>I'd much rather unapologetically announce my opinion and have somebody listen or not...that's their right as a dignified human being. <BR/><BR/>I hate those who play the E. L. Bernays. I rebuke them as (pardon my François) Mindfuckers.Clampetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619789284902512028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156728643753596382006-08-27T21:30:00.000-04:002006-08-27T21:30:00.000-04:00Thank you for posting this. I think that we're all...Thank you for posting this. I think that we're all tempted to resort to sarcasm, namecalling etc sometimes when arguing with people, but as a strategy for actually changing people's minds it's not really very helpful. In fact, I'd argue that the language we use as leftists is probably our single biggest Achilles heel. The tendency toward academic jargon, terms only understood by our own in-groupsCassandra Sayshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07775317504418213521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156617212527058602006-08-26T14:33:00.000-04:002006-08-26T14:33:00.000-04:00I wasn't just being defensive, Clampett. I was sh...I wasn't just being defensive, Clampett. I was shamelessly promoting myself. <BR/><BR/>Love you,<BR/><BR/>TSToastedsuzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09119589782211655334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156616391514089382006-08-26T14:19:00.000-04:002006-08-26T14:19:00.000-04:00Yes, TS I was admitting to both snideness and sill...Yes, TS I was admitting to both snideness and silly-ness<BR/><BR/>They are among some of my bad habits. <BR/><BR/>My assumptions about your behavior were false. <BR/><BR/> 'snake in the grass, etc....bullshit on my part.Clampetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619789284902512028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156561280348923162006-08-25T23:01:00.000-04:002006-08-25T23:01:00.000-04:00The other blog(s) to which Clampett is referring ...The other blog(s) to which Clampett is referring are Professor Zero (her post "Plagiarizing Grandma") and Why Am I Not Surprised, (changeseeker's post "required reading for...[something something--I can't remember, and my computer is being stupid]).<BR/><BR/>And since I'm here and all flattered and full of myself, I'm compelled to mention that I've written another post on "assholery" at http://Toastedsuzyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09119589782211655334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156536950826454392006-08-25T16:15:00.000-04:002006-08-25T16:15:00.000-04:00Your blog looks great. I'm going to do some readin...Your blog looks great. I'm going to do some reading around right now.<BR/>I delete some posters. But not for disagreeing with me. <BR/>I delete them for using foul language, ad hominem attacks, threats of physical violence, things like that.<BR/>I never had more than an occasional problem with bad comments until I did some postings on the Ramsey case. I suggested there might be a pedophile ring Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156533513748094342006-08-25T15:18:00.000-04:002006-08-25T15:18:00.000-04:00My initial gripe with TS was her behavior at anoth...My initial gripe with TS was her behavior at another blog. <BR/><BR/> There, she was being a snake in the grass, saying that her intelligence was insulted while hedging out the ass and trying to discredit people. <BR/><BR/>I thought she was shadowboxing with a clarion pen and employing the smokescreens of feigned ignorance and calculated hypersensitivity. <BR/><BR/> I was attacking what I Clampetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12619789284902512028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156394724503433902006-08-24T00:45:00.000-04:002006-08-24T00:45:00.000-04:00I think "white picket fence feminist" is a white m...I think "white picket fence feminist" is a white middle class woman who dabbles in feminism-does just enough to increase her own privilege.<BR/><BR/>Now, I'm not sure of that, I've seen the term thrown around and had to deduce the definition.spotted elephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681544565260222585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156384272762705222006-08-23T21:51:00.000-04:002006-08-23T21:51:00.000-04:00This post is exactly what I needed to read right n...This post is exactly what I needed to read right now. For having the nerve to say I respect Renegade Evolution, I have been labeled a hypocrite and a white picket fence feminist. And the woman who said awful things about RenEv never would own up to her hate.<BR/><BR/>I tried <EM>so hard</EM> to be polite, to be assertive rather than aggressive, but I called someone out on her misogyny and therespotted elephanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681544565260222585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156381682845879352006-08-23T21:08:00.000-04:002006-08-23T21:08:00.000-04:00It doesn't matter what I do, someone out there is ...It doesn't matter what I do, <I>someone out there</I> is gonna decide I'm an asshole.<BR/><BR/>Then again, I've got no issue apologizing, either. I also don't assume that I've <I>ever</I> effectively changed a mind in any really important way via blogging, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156368728317186232006-08-23T17:32:00.000-04:002006-08-23T17:32:00.000-04:00I totally agree with that sentiment, and yet I sti...I totally agree with that sentiment, and yet I still appreciate that often blogs are just for ranting. This can vary from blog to blog, or even post to post. Sometimes I write a post where I'm trying to clearly convey a thought or idea, or trying to explain my viewpoint on an issue, or what-have-you. And sometimes I am just fucking ranting. That doesn't mean everyone has to agree with my rant - Amber Rheahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02109708537597646450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156335973666624182006-08-23T08:26:00.000-04:002006-08-23T08:26:00.000-04:00nice belle. I like.nice belle. I like.Bamboo Lemur Boys Are Mean To Their Girlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15854856878692935043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156328686799300182006-08-23T06:24:00.000-04:002006-08-23T06:24:00.000-04:00This is GREAT, Belle! Applauding!Also, your boyfri...This is GREAT, Belle! Applauding!<BR/><BR/>Also, your boyfriends (heh) are up on a YouTube link on my post today.<BR/>"Baby. Jesus."Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203706993962458853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156212801712171162006-08-21T22:13:00.000-04:002006-08-21T22:13:00.000-04:00I think the common ground think is key. In order ...I think the common ground think is key. In order to get anywhere, instead of barking "white" to someone's "black", it's much more effective to start with "dark gray" and work from there.<BR/><BR/>(There are no intentional racial overtones in the above statement, just so we're clear. It's just an example.)Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481252201307998355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156207056254088322006-08-21T20:37:00.000-04:002006-08-21T20:37:00.000-04:00I think I'm going to make that excerpt my personal...I think I'm going to make that excerpt my personal piece of scripture, instead of the Gospel of the FSM.<BR/><BR/>Off-topic, I hate to spam, but I have a <A HREF="http://abstractnonsense.wordpress.com" REL="nofollow">new blog</A>.Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156190311217251562006-08-21T15:58:00.000-04:002006-08-21T15:58:00.000-04:00All any of us can do, m'dear. All any of us can d...All any of us can do, m'dear. All any of us can do.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1156147957002347422006-08-21T04:12:00.000-04:002006-08-21T04:12:00.000-04:00...and you know what else was really cool in there......and you know what else was really cool in there? He apologized. Then she accepted, and apologized herself. Then he accepted. Wacky, I know, but sometimes that's -just so crazy it might work.-belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.com