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per JV--and ironically enough, of all the familiar...

2008-07-23T20:46:00.000-04:00

per JV--and ironically enough, of all the familiar logins that come into play here, i.e. the ones who come in for the Twisty commentariat ire (JV herself included with much of the commenters, admittedly), she is by far the closest to the stereotype of the "fun" feminist. Which admittedly still isn't all that close, but dude--I'm pretty sure she's even been CALLED "fun," or thanked for bringing "

yeah, I know, huh. I'm often unclear on the diffe...

2008-07-22T17:22:00.000-04:00

yeah, I know, huh. I'm often unclear on the difference between IBTP and "Go Fug Yourself."

and per updates: again, yeah, huh. well, what else is there to say, really. just really wish some people would fuck away off finally.

and yeah, she does have a way with the dyspeptical...

2008-07-22T15:53:00.000-04:00

and yeah, she does have a way with the dyspeptically sexualized & sexist imagery, doesn't she.

Yeah, and the point of that was, what? To shame a 15-year-old girl for wanting to be as famous as her big sister? Well, that will certainly help the cause. Heh indeezy!

It's pretty radical, if you think about it. There's a real shortage of misogynist gossip blogs

oh, both Joss and Alas are pretty much on the Twoo...

2008-07-22T15:47:00.000-04:00

oh, both Joss and Alas are pretty much on the Twoo Feminist shitlist these days, I'm pretty sure, if they weren't always. Pandagon too, for that matter, but less arsed about that personally cause, well, I can't stand wossname but well nevermind that now...

Hmmm. Kathleen Hanna was a burlesque dancer at on...

2008-07-22T10:03:00.000-04:00

Hmmm.
Kathleen Hanna was a burlesque dancer at one point, and she's pretty much my top feminist icon right now.

Feminist blogs like Alas and Pandagon are always praising Battlestar Galactica and the collected works of Joss Whedon as being feminist...men like those. (Sometimes without even seeing the feminist implications, sadly, but we can hope.)

Don't think that

thanks belle.

2008-07-22T02:36:00.000-04:00

thanks belle.

and yeah, she does have a way with the dyspeptical...

2008-07-22T01:24:00.000-04:00

and yeah, she does have a way with the dyspeptically sexualized & sexist imagery, doesn't she.

Ilyka: o dear. you know, I like PP, and we've mor...

2008-07-22T01:23:00.000-04:00

Ilyka: o dear. you know, I like PP, and we've more or less agreed to disagree about dear Twisty; but that's really over the line.

There are a lot of people who could plausibly say ...

2008-07-22T01:04:00.000-04:00

There are a lot of people who could plausibly say that their feminism has caused problems in their social milieus. However, people who are so into radical feminism they regularly comment on a radical feminist blog aren't in that set.

Seriously, why the hell wasn't any of that sexist ...

2008-07-21T22:38:00.000-04:00

Seriously, why the hell wasn't any of that sexist BS in the comments even called out?

Speaking only for myself?--Because there's no point. Last time I objected to a TF sneer, I got for my trouble eleventy paragraphs of Pinko Punko explaining to me that if I didn't like TF's "tone," perhaps I should read another blog.

It makes total sense to let dudes chastise women on

Mandos: sure; or, maybe not minimum, but minimal,...

2008-07-21T19:25:00.000-04:00

Mandos: sure; or, maybe not minimum, but minimal, as long as the job in question has access to a computer, a shielding cube, a mainframe that doesn't block Blogger or suchlike, and a lot of downtime.

yeah, but that's kind of what I mean: yay, she's p...

2008-07-21T19:23:00.000-04:00

yeah, but that's kind of what I mean: yay, she's politically with it, kinda sorta, let's encourage it. I mean: I dunno, obviously we have to sneer at Aimee Mullins because she, too, is pornulated; but never -anyone- one could just go, "wow, she's really cool, check out this woman, everyone?" or, you know, some blogger one might not agree with but thinks is a great stylist, or -something?-

I've had way too many root canala for your average...

2008-07-21T18:14:00.000-04:00

I've had way too many root canala for your average human being.

I might as well be Our Lady of Perpetial Righteous Radfem Rage, or something.

Except no, not really.

Seriously, why the hell wasn't any of that sexist BS in the comments even called out?

Yes, but a lot of history's revolutionaries where ...

2008-07-21T15:42:00.000-04:00

Yes, but a lot of history's revolutionaries where only thus because they were liberated from drudgery at one point or another. Sure the horse may be gratuitous these days...but if she were slaving away at a minimum wage job, would she have the wherewithal to promulgate her revolutionary theories?

Whoops! I am apparently logged into Google as my ...

2008-07-21T15:29:00.000-04:00

Whoops! I am apparently logged into Google as my SO. Sorry 'bout that.

I mean, even a single note of praise or affection ...

2008-07-21T15:27:00.000-04:00

I mean, even a single note of praise or affection for any -individual- woman, I mean and particularly for some reason other than "hey, she slags off all these other women and/or my own weirdass conception of Teh Patriarchy just like I would."

Wasn't there lots of rah-rahhing and sis-boom-bahhing for Jessica Valenti, Most Excellent Gateway Drug for Embittered Women Who Will

...and now apparently dear ginmar is trying to say...

2008-07-21T14:58:00.000-04:00

...and now apparently dear ginmar is trying to say that Renegade having had her nose broken (in ways that had nothing to do with her job) is somehow proof of...something? Nice boundaries, anyway, asshole. jesus.

http://un-cool.blogspot.com/2008/07/absolutely-magnificent-post.html

as for "we should all be able to do it without any...

2008-07-21T14:37:00.000-04:00

as for "we should all be able to do it without any rules or judgment"--you know, "be the change you seek." What's really great about that is, unlike such nebulous goals as "overthrow the Patriarchy" or even "make other women stop capitulating to Teh Oppressor," that -is something you can actually do for yourself-, really you can.

well, except for pleasure is just fine if it invol...

2008-07-21T14:32:00.000-04:00

well, except for pleasure is just fine if it involves, like, riding your new horse, or eating lovely food prepared by someone else, or even -gasp- making fun of people, not that we get PLEASURE from this, NO.

Without speculating on that too much with regards to her personally, I will just say that I think it's difficult for me to "like women" because, which women? It's like saying "I

Well, so, the point is that if you think that your...

2008-07-21T13:22:00.000-04:00
Well, so, the point is that if you think that your political ideology is one of uprising and "national" liberation, then it kind of makes sense. If you believe that you are a revolutionary warrior, or at least a revolutionary armchair quarterback, then the approval of the oppressor class is guilty until proven innocent, as it were.

Talking about pleasure and what you *like* is, by dint

fuck me, most of the burlesque I know and love is ...

2008-07-21T12:12:00.000-04:00
fuck me, most of the burlesque I know and love is queer queer queer, but Miz Spinster Aunt sez it's all about teh Menz, so it must be so.

I imagine the counter-argument there would be that it's ALL patriarchy and there's nothing new under the scrotum, or something. See, whether you realize it or not, even the queerest relationship is still modeled after teh hetz and is thus

"when guys approve, it's a great guage of whether ...

2008-07-21T06:51:00.000-04:00
"when guys approve, it's a great guage of whether or not something is
feminist at all. "

Cos it's all about the menz.

fuck me, most of the burlesque I know and love is ...

2008-07-21T03:10:00.000-04:00
fuck me, most of the burlesque I know and love is queer queer queer, but Miz Spinster Aunt sez it's all about teh Menz, so it must be so.

honestly, I wonder: does Twisty actually -like- women? Like, at all. If so, I've seen no sign of it.

whatevs, that sure was a nice long quiet stretch when no one was talking about her, I miss it already. and no, haven't read anything

When I saw who left the first comment--hell, when ...

2008-07-21T02:51:00.000-04:00
When I saw who left the first comment--hell, when I read the post--I knew. I knew I should click the hell off and never look back.

But I'm stupid, so, sadly I know what you're talking about, and honestly I'm tired of it.

The way everyone glossed right over "half our fans are women" was special, too.

I dunno. I give up on that one, I think. If, with all the death and

I'd really love to see the epic backtrack involved...

2008-07-21T01:50:00.000-04:00
I'd really love to see the epic backtrack involved in defending the "inviting abuse" line somehow.

Then again, I'm probably being a dreamer :p