tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post6573898153958181217..comments2024-03-28T03:15:55.088-04:00Comments on Fetch me my axe: Oh joy, just what we all needed: PUMA 2.0Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-88514633379066653062017-09-11T07:18:18.959-04:002017-09-11T07:18:18.959-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03222186550150751164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-32689120625635422622010-04-16T19:14:35.788-04:002010-04-16T19:14:35.788-04:00Belle,
You'd probably be pleased to know I am...Belle,<br /><br />You'd probably be pleased to know I am more sympathetic to the "liberal-tarian" social reference group than right-wing populism. A bit disturbed that some of my Libertarian colleagues are so paleo sometimes. I get the anti-establishment vibe that people want to push, but the attacks on "liberal elitists" or "new class liberals" seem as ugly as Nick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-45102455014627527672010-04-12T20:22:15.499-04:002010-04-12T20:22:15.499-04:00http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/chomsky-urges-madis...http://www.yaliberty.org/posts/chomsky-urges-madison-crowd-to-take-tea-party-movement-seriously<br /><br />Belledame,<br /><br />Thought you may find this relevant to your original post!<br /><br />Chomsky isn't really a generic liberal democrat, IMO<br /><br />This article seriously understates the degree of his leftism. Chomsky is most definitely a "I am a socialist and proud" Nick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-6791383464104119042010-01-19T09:50:30.572-05:002010-01-19T09:50:30.572-05:00Interesting review of Norquist's history, Bell...Interesting review of Norquist's history, Belle<br /><br />He seems to show up at Libertarian events here and there. I actually know a Libertarian who said "just not another tax loopholes with Grover Norquist" session hehe<br /><br />I did not know he had been so close to the GOP establishment.Nick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-69537724934768015392010-01-01T17:22:00.401-05:002010-01-01T17:22:00.401-05:00I think your blog will always be one of my favorit...I think your blog will always be one of my favorites, Belle -- no one says it like you do! Happy New Year, old blog buddy!Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08203706993962458853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-51264169229550183292009-12-31T20:39:02.343-05:002009-12-31T20:39:02.343-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Nick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-63102617417725767852009-12-31T18:04:38.258-05:002009-12-31T18:04:38.258-05:00as for why I'm not terrifically sympathetic wr...as for why I'm not terrifically sympathetic wrt arguments against ridiculing tea partiers as a movement. <a href="http://bastardlogic.wordpress.com/2009/12/23/hamsher-tea-party/" rel="nofollow">this here</a> speaks to it pretty well.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-63484579993504023072009-12-31T15:34:03.178-05:002009-12-31T15:34:03.178-05:00Heh
I guess my point is that the hostility and po...Heh<br /><br />I guess my point is that the hostility and polar tribalization of people into Progressives vs "Tea Baggers" or whatever dehumanizing term can be really darkly comical for someone who isn't a Progressive or a rightist to watch. If the right includes Libertarians or Randians; the notion that they reject reform is patently false. What they propose is free market reform. Nick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-13566778491148812422009-12-31T15:29:03.162-05:002009-12-31T15:29:03.162-05:00My labor lawyer dad and labor lawyer stepmom are a...My labor lawyer dad and labor lawyer stepmom are against the current bill. It imposes a 40 percent tax on existing high quality plans ~ which they claim are mostly to be found with unions. I am currently covered under the Teamsters plan, and am a bit apprehensive about what the tax will do to the benefits provided by it. This is just one of the counter-productive taxes I am perplexed by in it. IfNick Manleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01513334575122504558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-8600751323194599252009-12-27T17:33:12.102-05:002009-12-27T17:33:12.102-05:00Most obnoxious of all is the fact that she started...Most obnoxious of all is the fact that she started out being a hardcore public option supporter: http://vastleft.blogspot.com/search?q=hamsherJennynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-1424384989337645912009-12-26T19:07:06.675-05:002009-12-26T19:07:06.675-05:00Now...I'm one of those on the Far, Far Left wh...Now...I'm one of those on the Far, Far Left who is squarely on the "Kill the Bill" side of the debate (because I don't think that the seemingly progressive aspects of this bill will last as long as the Big Insura/Big Pharma bailout/individual mandate will, and the Repubs will take full advantage of the anger anyway in 2010 and 2012)...but that doesn't mean that I don't Anthony Kennersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103420620416144653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-73159087023713941582009-12-26T17:21:34.401-05:002009-12-26T17:21:34.401-05:00Isn't it absurd? First of all, around left op...Isn't it absurd? First of all, around left opposition to the bill, we see this Grand PUMObamabot Coalition forming around every ridiculous character you can think of, and THEN Jane decides that she's going to team up with Norquist. <br /><br />Riiiight.<br /><br />Anyway, I've created my own rubberneckery on this issue (of health care), which has actually inspired TWO WHOLE BLOG Mandoshttp://politblogo.typepad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-10851079858507429282009-12-24T16:57:13.767-05:002009-12-24T16:57:13.767-05:00Hey, it works for Paglia.
I think either way it c...Hey, it works for Paglia.<br /><br />I think either way it comes down to not really thinking things through. The short term benefits are a bunch of attention and *feeling* like you're accomplishing something. By the time you've moved on to the "oh, shit, what about the longterm," there's something else new and exciting and shortterm to take its place. All it costs is belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-33067451595882610382009-12-24T16:33:39.922-05:002009-12-24T16:33:39.922-05:00You don't sign up with Grover Norquist and go ...<em>You don't sign up with Grover Norquist and go on Fox News and expect Bernie Sanders to go "right then, clearly I wasn't being socialist enough."</em><br /><br />Right. "Noooooo, what will I do if I lose the FOX News viewing audience?--Er, wait."<br /><br />I don't "know" the lady at all; I never got much into FDL and things like the Lieberman Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252175289768478129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-10473638028044726762009-12-24T16:30:11.280-05:002009-12-24T16:30:11.280-05:00Oh, jeez. I missed that blackface shit when it hap...Oh, jeez. I missed that blackface shit when it happened. YUCK.<br /><br />And, yeah. I agree totally that if you do want to play the "dangerous left fringe that needs to be placated", you don't do it by joining forces with the likes of Norquist.Comrade PhysioProfhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-91290776641571894222009-12-24T14:01:31.427-05:002009-12-24T14:01:31.427-05:00if anything, it's...ironic...that Hamsher is p...if anything, it's...ironic...that Hamsher is perhaps more similar to her supposed enemy Lieberman than she thought: selfishness and fuck-you spite and stubbornness win the day.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-43128982813670209432009-12-24T13:49:53.185-05:002009-12-24T13:49:53.185-05:00and if you really want to play the "so fringe...and if you really want to play the "so fringey you make the less fringey look sensible by comparison," you go find (or create) some uberleft people to sign up with. ANSWER, the reanimated corpse of the Weathermen, some goddam thing. You don't sign up with Grover Norquist and go on Fox News and expect Bernie Sanders to go "right then, clearly I wasn't being socialist belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-36079910932046770972009-12-24T13:46:47.376-05:002009-12-24T13:46:47.376-05:00oops, second link broke, but it's hyperlinked ...oops, second link broke, but it's hyperlinked in the OP herebelledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-67451304384622802082009-12-24T13:45:58.554-05:002009-12-24T13:45:58.554-05:00Another instance of Hamsher being "helpful,&q...Another instance of Hamsher being "helpful," only...really, really not. And continuing to be a jerkass when called on it.<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/id/2147117/?nav=ais<br /><br />http://www.culturekitchen.com/liza/blog/jane_hamsher_is_an_idiotbelledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-88750156301083262002009-12-24T13:42:22.372-05:002009-12-24T13:42:22.372-05:00What was the "blackface" incident?What was the "blackface" incident?Comrade PhysioProfhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-77865274544582855382009-12-24T13:12:19.156-05:002009-12-24T13:12:19.156-05:00If you look at the "blackface" incident ...If you look at the "blackface" incident it makes more sense. she's just an arrogant tineared jerkass.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-30076744185939137662009-12-24T10:38:42.373-05:002009-12-24T10:38:42.373-05:00Yeah, this is some crazy shit. I don't get it ...Yeah, this is some crazy shit. I don't get it at all. Hamsher always struck me as pretty realistic and level headed, and this makes no sense.<br /><br />The only thing I can think of is that this is some kind of strategic dealio, where Hamsher and her allies think that by going all wackaloon apeshit, they will provide cover for progressive congressional dems to try to force some more Comrade PhysioProfhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-5402415522491604752009-12-24T04:51:01.396-05:002009-12-24T04:51:01.396-05:00WHOA.
I mean--I hate the hell out of the current ...WHOA.<br /><br />I mean--I hate the hell out of the current bill. HATE it. Oh, how I could go on!<br /><br />But somehow the "solution" of allying with teabaggers and trying to oust Bernie Sanders, of all people, never occurred to me.<br /><br />Am I missing something?<br /><br />I know some bloggers did jump on Jane and imply she was selling out a few weeks ago, but, well, day endingKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18252175289768478129noreply@blogger.com