Comments on Fetch me my axe: Kyle Payne: Why it was a Big Fucking Deal, a note ...

Eh, I've only really gotten the "not talking to yo...

2008-07-20T18:32:00.000-04:00

Eh, I've only really gotten the "not talking to you anymore because you commented at such-and-such," one time, and actually I had been obnoxious to that person at her own blog, so I shrugged it off as me just getting on her nerves more than social pressure to conform/choose sides/whatever the hell.

I meant that I am uncomfortable with both saying nothing and with saying anything, in

this guy is not a feminist he is a predatorhttp://...

2008-07-20T16:21:00.000-04:00

this guy is not a feminist he is a predator

http://www.queersunited.blogspot.com

Hi, Joan.I thought it was a bit odd that anyone th...

2008-07-19T03:23:00.000-04:00

Hi, Joan.

I thought it was a bit odd that anyone thought that the Kyle stuff was posted out of surprise - I know for certain that nothing I read about him surprised me, but the thought of all that stuff that he was keeping in the background not being known while he tries to gain access to women who have been raped or speak out on feminism to feminist women? I think getting that

No problem, Joan; I actually wasn't aware of what/...

2008-07-19T03:00:00.000-04:00

No problem, Joan; I actually wasn't aware of what/where you're referring to, but really, no worries. in any case, I'm not sure where the impulse to excommunicate/demonize people because they, like, commented on oh noez someone else's blog where I can't stand their ass, but it ain't from me. You're a free agent. Anyway, thanks.

And, thanks, andi, appreciated.

For the record, because I have posted on I think a...

2008-07-18T20:34:00.000-04:00

For the record, because I have posted on I think at least one thread that aggravated you - just for my own self, I would like to make it clear here in case you haven't seen me say it elsewhere - my expression of non-surprise and/or not relating to tons of everybody else being surprised by that man is not about rolling my eyes at anyone who is surprised, nor deriding any of your efforts to skewer

And the best part is, neither I nor Renegade actua...

2008-07-18T19:03:00.000-04:00

And the best part is, neither I nor Renegade actually spotted him first (dibs! dibs!!...ffs...), actually, it was Eleanor, who is neither (as far as I know) particularly "sex pos" or radical feminist. but then I suppose if you're not with 'em, you're agin' em, and she might've said something unflattering about Dworkin and/or her followers, so, you know, clearly Bad, too, never mind.

If one of them had spotted the Kyle stuff, I'm sur...

2008-07-16T21:10:00.000-04:00

If one of them had spotted the Kyle stuff, I'm sure they'd all be posting on it, but since you and Ren started blogging on it first, it must be irrelevant. "Of course men are dangerous rapists, we know this. Picking one out doesn't make a difference even if he has an open sentencing come up, and if people see what he's done before going, that might make a difference.

In regards to K. Payne, some folks are sick fucks ...

2008-07-16T00:16:00.000-04:00

In regards to K. Payne, some folks are sick fucks - then there's folks like this guy.
Belle, thanks for posting about this stuff..you really do a lot of good.

Hi Belle,Would you be interested in contributing t...

2008-07-15T13:26:00.000-04:00

Hi Belle,
Would you be interested in contributing to the next Carnival of Feminists? You have such a great blog and I know you'd add something valuable. Take a look at my carnival ideas here:

http://diaryofafreakmagnet.blogspot.com/2008/07/call-for-submissions.html

No worries if you can't participate, but I'd love it if you did. Feel free to submit any post you'd like. I

And that is why I have always been wary of these D...

2008-07-15T11:50:00.000-04:00

And that is why I have always been wary of these Dworkin anti-porn types. They can't see the forest for the trees, or in this case, the victim for the pictures. This involved a real woman who did not get to be paid/ awake for her victimizing.

Ugh...I really need to stop reading through your a...

2008-07-14T18:33:00.000-04:00

Ugh...I really need to stop reading through your and Ren's blog. Finding out that the communities which supposedly support my friends, family, and I, are riddled with the same assholes as the communities dedicated to harming us (they just use slightly different lingo, "you suck! you're too masculine" vs. "you suck! you're too feminine" for example) is quite distressing. Not to mention that they

I honestly do think it is pettiness, and probably ...

2008-07-14T16:21:00.000-04:00

I honestly do think it is pettiness, and probably stems only from you not getting onboard, shaving your heads, and moving into the fenced-off compounds.

For those who are interested I have a post up at F...

2008-07-14T14:57:00.000-04:00

For those who are interested I have a post up at Feministe (where I am guest blogging for two weeks) using Payne as a context for talking in general about men calling themselves feminists, and that it is fucking stupid for them to do it, even if they are not nefarious scumbags like

belledame- well the folk who did blog on any side...

2008-07-14T14:25:00.000-04:00

belledame- well the folk who did blog on any side about it, you know, about the actual ISSUE, payne, like Nine Deuce, buried alive, gin, lost clown...yep, props and nothing but, even considering my and gin's history and all...this issue is bigger...

but otherwise...shades of the Philly rape/theft of services case, all over again...which I sorta predicted, sadly enough. It's spooky that

It almost sounds like some of these folks are so b...

2008-07-14T14:04:00.000-04:00

It almost sounds like some of these folks are so busy falling all over themselves to talk about Evil, Inc (that would be us) and the PORN that...well, they are almost giving this scumbag a pass.

Almost?

I think that they ARE giving him a pass.

I think they really just are that fucking petty th...

2008-07-14T13:54:00.000-04:00

I think they really just are that fucking petty that they'd rather do pretty much anything than admit you or I had a point, ever. Because of course that's what's really important here, the grudgematch.

Shit, radio nothing, they could just go directly to the source via Nine Deuce or ginmar or something; and you know, if they were the only ones or first ones talking about this, gosh,

yeah, not sure how this is so hard to MISS...but t...

2008-07-14T13:47:00.000-04:00

yeah, not sure how this is so hard to MISS...but then again...the mass paranoia and frat like hazing, ritual and demand to follow the message of the collective and all...I can see how one might suffer from bouts of denseness and blindness.

Really, I mean, if one were to not fear sullying themselves and actually read or listen to the radio show or something, they might, maybe, get that