tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post8135122360172646274..comments2024-03-28T03:15:55.088-04:00Comments on Fetch me my axe: "Strange bedfellows"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-63193662984927640902007-07-20T00:58:00.000-04:002007-07-20T00:58:00.000-04:00Well, I might make an exception if Hitler showed u...Well, I might make an exception if Hitler showed up tanned & rested after his long Argentine vacation. <BR/><BR/>But even less would I extenuate the oppressive intentions of religious or racist reactionaries. The apologetics are what bother me most. If you're intent on lying down w/ the Devil, at least have the integrity to call him by his rightful name.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-68774619839410240002007-07-19T12:29:00.000-04:002007-07-19T12:29:00.000-04:00I wouldn't be prepared to work with the religious ...I wouldn't be prepared to work with the religious right on anything and I don't think my group would either.Winterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07417665775296548835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-81076254327035197432007-07-18T22:08:00.000-04:002007-07-18T22:08:00.000-04:00This thread came & went while I was traveling in t...This thread came & went while I was traveling in the east (of Capitol St), but I'd make 1 comment: I actually had in mind <I>two</I> distinct questions. The 1st is the 1 you describe here: under what conditions should we enter into coalitions w/ people w/ whom we may have deep disagreements? But there’s also a 2nd problem having to do w/ ideological convergence. The 2 questions are separableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-88401619615118587022007-07-16T16:51:00.000-04:002007-07-16T16:51:00.000-04:00hey there! sorry to ask this so awkwardly, but do...hey there! sorry to ask this so awkwardly, but do you have an e-mail contact where i could ask you a question directly?<BR/><BR/>best,<BR/>ts<BR/>stuff.tough@gmail.comtoughstuffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16744887215730977300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-63871565028753231442007-07-16T15:57:00.000-04:002007-07-16T15:57:00.000-04:00One of the things that I try to keep in mind is ju...One of the things that I try to keep in mind is judging both what people say and what they do. (Or perhaps what they want.)<BR/><BR/>For example: in my broadly defined mish-mash of a religious subculture, there are a *lot* of groups that are all about the "We need to protect our religious freedoms!" jobbie. And they frequently want us all to club together and do stuff, and get very angry at Dw3t-Hthrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11584245136407694660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-78224594562266654272007-07-16T12:44:00.000-04:002007-07-16T12:44:00.000-04:00I don't know in general, but the example you give ...I don't know in general, but the example you give of Obama is actually of a useful political alliance. In the diary you link to, Obama says governing from the base isn't necessarily a good idea; the 2006 election proved him right. So far, he seems to be the sort of person who knows how to form temporary alliances on issues of public administration, while having a solid progressive record himself.Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-75628787401106141182007-07-16T08:51:00.000-04:002007-07-16T08:51:00.000-04:00Does giving them the option of joing my treehouse ...Does giving them the option of joing my treehouse club or being horribly brutally maimed in a rabies infect biomechanical threshing machine count as a form of coalition building?<BR/><BR/><I>Simply doing away with porn in itself wouldn't necessarily have either effect (each side would hope that in the aftermath, their desired social outcome would result).</I><BR/><BR/>Well you're assuming way tooR. Mildredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00932355251730998294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-84205975395227081602007-07-15T22:24:00.000-04:002007-07-15T22:24:00.000-04:00For example, does the alliance in question increas...<I>For example, does the alliance in question increase political capital reserves that will be used against my stated goals? Is the alliance with a moderate group, such as mainstream conservatism, or with an extremist one, such as communism or Dominionism? If it's with an extremist group, does the group have any potential to take over (as Dominionists do) or not (as libertarians don't)?</I><BR/><belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-2251298895400126052007-07-15T22:23:00.000-04:002007-07-15T22:23:00.000-04:00I'm not really limiting this to the antiporn femin...I'm not really limiting this to the antiporn feminist/RRR thing here. It's a practical question for activists of various stripes.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-39674462229974053682007-07-15T22:16:00.000-04:002007-07-15T22:16:00.000-04:00I have to unask your question. In theory it doesn'...I have to unask your question. In theory it doesn't make sense, for the same reasons explained in the other threads. For example, does the alliance in question increase political capital reserves that will be used against my stated goals? Is the alliance with a moderate group, such as mainstream conservatism, or with an extremist one, such as communism or Dominionism? If it's with an extremist Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-86870103573822624312007-07-15T20:57:00.000-04:002007-07-15T20:57:00.000-04:00Wow, what an amazing thread back there! I'm sorry...Wow, what an amazing thread back there! I'm sorry I missed out on the discussion. (For the record, I like parts of Dworkin AND Greer, but don't think I like <I>all</I> of <I>anybody</I> or else I'd just refer to that person regularly instead of writing my own stuff.) <BR/><BR/>As for the question here, I'll work with absolutely anyone with a similar goal at hand. I'll work with Sagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481252201307998355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-65437957116102296602007-07-15T19:35:00.000-04:002007-07-15T19:35:00.000-04:00Thanks for extending the discussion, BD! :)Thanks for extending the discussion, BD! :)Daisy Deadheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17993200276152025235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-77163248599611436182007-07-15T18:22:00.000-04:002007-07-15T18:22:00.000-04:00I think for me, it's a question of what they're tr...I think for me, it's a question of what they're trying to do with it.<BR/><BR/>The confusion arising from the anti-porn feminists allying with the Religious Right comes not from the fact that they have the same aim of getting rid of porn (and sex industry in general) but from the complete clash of what they expect to achieve by it.<BR/><BR/>The Religious Right will naturally seek to write laws Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-38920877685583768192007-07-15T17:51:00.000-04:002007-07-15T17:51:00.000-04:00You know, I'd love to answer that question, but I ...You know, I'd love to answer that question, but I don't really know. As I said in my last post, I'm still trying to figure out if there's even a group standing behind me or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com