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I post under my own name. <BR/><BR/>The "you suffered abuse once, hence you don't get to be a parent" thing wasn't brought up for the first time, with me. <BR/><BR/>A person did say it to my face before. Seeing it in a blog's comment section somehow didn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-44503862898248538722009-01-06T01:30:00.000-05:002009-01-06T01:30:00.000-05:00belledame222 said...I had to run out before elabor...belledame222 said...<BR/>I had to run out before elaborating on that last. To complete that thought, then, for completion's sake if nothing else:<BR/><BR/>In the case of mocking Coulter's looks, it -can- be "people in glass houses oughtn't to throw stones," when she's specifically making fun of other peoples' looks. One can argue that one still shouldn't do it, at all, because it's sexist and belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-50895156003374587722009-01-06T01:21:00.000-05:002009-01-06T01:21:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-24532246113171049512009-01-05T19:45:00.000-05:002009-01-05T19:45:00.000-05:00And if "feelings" is too squishy a concept to take...And if "feelings" is too squishy a concept to take seriously, again, read what AW is saying. Yeah, no one necessarily thinks GC is likely to go out and instigate a eugenics program, herself. She's still representing an extreme end of rather popular ideas in many ways, and contributing to a general poisoning of the discourse, and an extension of the limits of what's tolerable to entertain. Samebelledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-22395042881317644082009-01-05T19:38:00.000-05:002009-01-05T19:38:00.000-05:00First, she didn't say it to anyone's face; she sai...<I>First, she didn't say it to anyone's face; she said it to a screenname. People are a lot more assholish online than in person.</I><BR/><BR/>Well, that is a whole 'nother long argument, but basically: <BR/><BR/>1) Yes, people are often more assholish online than in person, myself included. <BR/><BR/>2) This does not mean that there is no connection between an online persona and the "meatspacebelledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-68590552404181299012009-01-05T18:55:00.000-05:002009-01-05T18:55:00.000-05:00Alon, do you have some particular point here? I'm...Alon, do you have some particular point here? I'm sure you do, you're a smart guy. <BR/><BR/>I was, as I said, most immediately thinking of GC, as I'd just encountered and been thoroughly sickened by her behavior (again), and certainly a longtime reader such as yourself is well aware that I am not exactly above taking a shot at a relatively unknown person when I think they are being an utter belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-66370982745110191782009-01-05T12:36:00.000-05:002009-01-05T12:36:00.000-05:00"Second, who cares? GC isn't an important person, ..."Second, who cares? GC isn't an important person, and there are very few people like her."<BR/><BR/>The few people like her collect the hordes of everyday buggers that agree in "moderation". Note the quotations, because while an individual's moderation will differ from their peers, individuals just -adore- joining causes that will see their vision come alive. Kinda like How The World Runs Today ArrogantWormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511511340098973295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-78274958044183877982009-01-05T12:17:00.000-05:002009-01-05T12:17:00.000-05:00*progressive evolution in an individual basis, tha...*progressive evolution in an individual basis, that is.ArrogantWormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511511340098973295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-54807705148655262972009-01-05T12:12:00.000-05:002009-01-05T12:12:00.000-05:00"And I'm not saying she deserves special dispensat..."And I'm not saying she deserves special dispensation, just that talking about "the most backward, least evolved people" posits that there's some progressive evolution from meanness to niceness"<BR/><BR/>I think there is, though, although it isn't 'meanness to niceness' but more 'mineminemine to oh dear god, is -this- what they're/We're dealing with?' Empathy plays a large role, and with a lot ofArrogantWormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511511340098973295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-68727341653237183152009-01-05T11:56:00.000-05:002009-01-05T11:56:00.000-05:00....Besides which, it's much better to keep us aro.......Besides which, it's much better to keep us around. Social Darwinism never seems to plan for the loss. You don't gain - anything - without losses, they seem to have forgotten that. People would run around like chickens with their heads cut off if they ever managed to get rid of all the 'undesirables'. Think of all the things that'd be lost, not to mention - exactly - where you'd land if ArrogantWormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511511340098973295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-83276916412809740262009-01-05T11:54:00.000-05:002009-01-05T11:54:00.000-05:00Human rights violations, forced sterilization, att...<I>Human rights violations, forced sterilization, attempted annihilation of - entire demographics - and the lauding of these as something to aspire to, (et cetera and so forth) are not to be called 'social flaws'.</I><BR/><BR/>The human rights violations came about precisely because eugenics enjoyed wide support among people who are nothing like GC. The average eugenicist in the 1920s and 30s, Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-45621872473885784062009-01-05T11:39:00.000-05:002009-01-05T11:39:00.000-05:00Right... except I'm not saying GC's a genius, just...Right... except I'm not saying GC's a genius, just weird. If she weren't, she wouldn't come to believe such a weird idea. And I'm not saying she deserves special dispensation, just that talking about "the most backward, least evolved people" posits that there's some progressive evolution from meanness to niceness is like complaining that Ann Coulter is ugly or that Peter Singer has Asperger's.<BRAlon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-69235524360257877172009-01-05T11:35:00.000-05:002009-01-05T11:35:00.000-05:00People are flawed. This tends to be exaggerated fo...People are flawed. This tends to be exaggerated for people who are leaders of a movement or who believe in heterodox ideas. It's not surprising that there are eugenicists with social flaws, any more than it's surprising that there are feminists with social flaws.<BR/><BR/>Hm. How to put this. Human rights violations, forced sterilization, attempted annihilation of - entire demographics - and the ArrogantWormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03511511340098973295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-18689544974195150272009-01-05T09:56:00.000-05:002009-01-05T09:56:00.000-05:00besides which, there are also plenty of certified ...besides which, there are also plenty of certified Brilliant People who are not only -not- vastly more flawed than your average bear but are in fact rather menschy. I've met some, even. Not -perfect-, no, but nicely well-rounded. Not because they didn't -have- fucked-uppedness, (big Shadow, what you will), maybe in fact even more than your average bear (or not), but because part of the -reason- belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-14348010951826282142009-01-05T09:39:00.000-05:002009-01-05T09:39:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-22602026695768660382009-01-05T09:35:00.000-05:002009-01-05T09:35:00.000-05:00also, too, for every Real Genius who's tragically ...also, too, for every Real Genius who's tragically flawed and Misunderstood By Society and thus blazes or gutters out under the weight of their own torturedness (even as The Work Lives On, or will do many years later, of course, and isn't it all just so Womantic, really), <BR/><BR/>...there are about 1,000,000 miserable plonkers whose only real talent is for making other people as miserable as belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-61966646020152009682009-01-05T09:20:00.000-05:002009-01-05T09:20:00.000-05:00People are flawed. This tends to be exaggerated fo...<I>People are flawed. This tends to be exaggerated for people who are leaders of a movement or who believe in heterodox ideas.</I><BR/><BR/>And, perhaps tangentially, I also have never been terribly impressed with the "special dispensation for appalling behavior on account of Talent/Genius" argument, even in the cases where I might actually agree that the person in question is possessed of Talentbelledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-45543067263815590132009-01-05T08:22:00.000-05:002009-01-05T08:22:00.000-05:00and Singer is not -socially flawed- for arguing eu...and Singer is not -socially flawed- for arguing eugenics for people with disabilities, in my book, whether he is diagnosable with Asperger's or not (I have no idea). That there in my book would be -morally- flawed, as is the greenconsciousness person, whatever else her problem is or what its origin (I really don't care), who in fact was arguing eugenics for people with autism -to a woman with belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-58784554698593979632009-01-05T07:51:00.000-05:002009-01-05T07:51:00.000-05:00"unevolved""having Aspergers"One of these things i..."unevolved"<BR/><BR/>"having Aspergers"<BR/><BR/>One of these things is not like the other. <BR/><BR/>Alon, I'll see your irony impairment and raise you one, because I suddenly haven't the patience. Are you trying to say you are in fact a eugenicist, with or without social flaws, or are you just being your usual lovable contrarian self for no other reason than to annoy the crap out of me?belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-23189490605398339052009-01-05T07:49:00.000-05:002009-01-05T07:49:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-50471961686036629832009-01-05T07:47:00.000-05:002009-01-05T07:47:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.belledame222https://www.blogger.com/profile/13947289856453172848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-43926036969064083702009-01-05T04:32:00.000-05:002009-01-05T04:32:00.000-05:00How is it that it is invariably the most backward,...<I>How is it that it is invariably the most backward, least evolved people--mentally, spiritually, socially, emotionally--who are the most fervent advocates of some form of Social Darwinism?</I><BR/><BR/>How is it that so many attacks on social Darwinism use social Darwinist language? It happened on Berube's blog, when many commenters attacking Peter Singer's anti-disabled people philosophy by Alon Levyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12195377309045184452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18375173.post-25516642564095443092009-01-03T08:55:00.000-05:002009-01-03T08:55:00.000-05:00Uhmm, not done gagging. Sorry.GC: I am asking for...Uhmm, not done gagging. Sorry.<BR/><BR/>GC: <I>I am asking for a fair use of limited resources which includes respect for nonhuman as well as human species.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeesh. This makes explicit one reason that I'm uncomfortable with veganists (as opposed to vegans; think of our friend Elaine V) - their extremism comes pretty damned close to a fascist ideology, so it suprises me not, that GC GallingGallahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08241627397789129041noreply@blogger.com