Reposting in full with her permission, as originally posted at Sexual Ambiguities [with some more added hyperlinks]. Also see x-post at Questioning Transphobia with Lisa's commentary.
An open letter to cis feminists
Stop fucking up.*
I have complained numerous times that the feminist blogosphere, such as it is, has one main conversation about trans people, one that is returned to again and again and again - the political implications of our transitioning. Click here** if you want yet another example of pointless bloody "analysis."
I don't CARE about whatever horrible thing some feminist has said anymore. I care that these discussions centre on cis concerns, even (maybe especially) allies respond mostly to the slurs, but rarely address the real issues.
Now, if you want to have those conversations, here's an idea. Subject yourself to the same kind of analysis. Honestly interrogate if and how you might have more or less privilege than trans people. And no, for the millionth time, trans women are not the fucking Patriarchy.
Or how bout this for an idea. Spend some actual time and energy on trans issues. Here is one thing you are barely talking about - the continual violence against transgendered people for being transgendered.
Blog about Angie Zapata. Blog about Ebony Whitaker. Blog about Sanesha Stewart (to name just three trans women murdered this year).
Try subjecting all that torturous analysis to something actually useful - how violence against trans people occurs. Try thinking about the fact that it is overwhelming trans women of colour being murdered. Try thinking about the intersections between race, transness, misogyny and sex work.
Try writing about the way that institutions collude with this violence - that medical professionals may willingly leave you to die, that police may not prosecute, that lawyers use "trans panic" as a defence to justify the death, and then to add insult to injury, the media effectively blames the dead person for their own deaths AND misgenders them.
And for fuck's sake, don't blame the fucking victims.
I DARE YOU.
* if this doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you.
posted by queen emily
**belledame again. Yeah, it WOULD be better to focus on other things beside what the latest drooling imbecile online said, wouldn't it. Unfortunately, they kind of tend to draw one's attention. Me, I clicked over there when making the hyperlink, got as far as the "no special rights" crap and saw red.
As it happens, I had been planning to write a "dear straight feminists" post myself for a while now. I have no idea what mAndrea's personal deal is and don't much care; but I've seen, like, maybe a handful (ew) of actual lesbian (cis) "feminist" women be able to read, even WRITE this kind of crap and somehow NOT immediately go,
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING SHITTING ME THIS IS HOMOPHOBIA ONE OH FUCKING ONE HELLLLOOOOOOOO
I do not know what their damage is. I will never understand what the fucking disconnect is. One is now over there in the comments quoting Oscar Fucking Wilde. I can't deal with the stupid today, I really can't.
"People: the other white meat"
--Renegade
Mostly, though? The people who actually spout or endorse this kind of bullshit, as opposed to just sort of blipping it over because oo well not my table really? Even the ones who AREN'T total fucking wastes of space like this one? Straight women. (And some straight men, of course, which is, if possible, even more special-er, always). Burbling about: how they want to -do away with gender- (please); how political lesbianism, or whatever the catchphrase for "just avoid men and make sappy noises about how WONDERFUL women are without ever having to have icky sex with them" is these days, is something they humbly aspire to, meanwhile just having to make do with their very own Nigel whilst pointing righteous fingers at everyone else in the entire world; and how TERRIBLE "queer politics" are, this or that kind of sexual act or desire that guess what! is mostly going to affect people OTHER than their crunchy abstinent selves, the ones who are ALREADY being spat at and being called "perverts" and "degenerates" and their internal reality isn't legitimate anyway, much less acting out sexual desires...
Sorry. Got carried away. Where was I?
Anyway. But you know, besides that, yeah, there is another post somewhere here, about the curious place that gay (cis) people/issues and particularly lesbians have in mainstream (het) feminism. Certainly you don't catch this kind of bottom-feeder button-pushing bigotry, -within- feminism as such, just for being queer, usually. And, hell, well, lesbians, at least for some people, there's that dubious pedestal again...well, this is, I suspect, another post.
But yeah. There's really other shit to talk about, here, was the point, other -issues- that aren't all about centering straight women and their needs as well as (even more so, Emily is right) cis women and -our- needs; and I need to get on more of it myself.
I'll be coming back to this.
One thing that I have tried hard to understand, and have not really succeeded at, probably because my own privilege makes it impossible: I have heard some ciswomen saying that it hurts them by interfering with their own efforts to deal with patriarchy that transwomen "claim" the same status of "woman" that ciswomen have "forced" upon them.
ReplyDeleteI have to admit, that this argument kind of resonates with me. In fact, I have said so publicly a few times in the past, although I have since realized that this is not a topic I should really be opining on at all.
Is there something pernicious about this that I am missing?
(And I would be comfortable with being told to shut the fuck up and mind my own business, if that makes the most sense.)
What are you asking? Why certain cis women are "hurt" by trans women claiming equal status as them? -shrug- I figure I'll understand it about when someone also can answer the question about how it is exactly that gay marriage threatens the institution of "family values," etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteBeyond that, got me. Some people aren't good with the whole "sharing" thing; someone missed that day in nursery school, I guess.
Is there something pernicious about this that I am missing?
ReplyDeleteVery simply. We don't "claim" some grand "woman-status". We are women, full stop (as indicated by the proper spelling of the term "trans woman" as two words - we are not some kind of third gender). The allegation that we put on womanhood like we put on clothes, is what is pernicious.
No need to stfu, but if the "claim" argument resonates with you, I think you've got some more reading and thinking to do. You could start with Julia Serano's "Whipping Girl".
I'd like to know how it hurts some cis women. Is it problematic that some people like being women? There's cis women and trans women alike who like being women, so why are trans women singled out for liking womanhood too much? Hell, why are trans men singled out for supposedly fleeing womanhood if the state of being a woman is oppressive and harmful at all times? The argument doesn't stand.
ReplyDeleteBut you know what? I don't think it matters. Cis women might be inconvenienced by the idea of people who want to be women, but those of us who want to be women have trouble getting housing, getting employment, we're actively harmed by anti-trans prejudice. We're brutally murdered.
The problem with this whole feminist debate is that it continually centers the question of transness on cis women, and that's like centering every discussion about race on whiteness, every discussion about gender on men, every discussion about sexual orientation on heterosexuals (or if the topic is bisexuality, on monosexuals).
Asking "but what about the cis women?" is not unlike asking "but what about the menz?"
-nod nod nod nod nod- to everything Lisa said.
ReplyDeleteit is selfish. "I don't want to inconvenience my beautiful mind to reassess my worldview, especially the narrative of whatever kind of feminism this is that draws a clear and bright line between Persecuted Us and Wicked Them; I'm going to put it all back on you. I don't care how much harder it makes life for you; it's not MY fault. Hey, I'M not the one who actually murdered you or even denied you your rights (oh well except in the cases where I did try to promote the gutted ENDA bill and suchlike, Hi Blanche!), and it WOUNDS me that you would call me "transphobic..."
retch. Just: retch.
This comment has been removed by the author.
ReplyDeleteBy "inconvenienced," btw, I meant that the existence and reality of trans people should be enough cause to rethink the theory that says we can't exist.
ReplyDeleteQuite a few radfems have told me directly that they find trans people inconvenient to their theory...and thus conclude that trans people are liars because their theory can't possibly be wrong.
I do not believe the existence of trans women harms cis women in any measurable way. None of the arguments I've heard have been convincing, since they've all been predicated on the idea that I'm a horrible person and a freak.
Yeah, like I said, to me it's the exact equivalent of homophobes going out of their way to deny not only gay marriage but protection rights for job and housing discrimination, even watered-down domestic partner bills, -even- such you would think no brainers as adding to already existing hate crimes laws, protection in -schools-, etc. Why? None of the answers are pretty.
ReplyDeleteI'm banning the word "patriarchy" from my blog and embracing "kyriarchy."
ReplyDeleteI dealt with queer oppression long before I ever felt oppressed as a woman. Got called a dyke in school because of who my friends were, joined the GSA, etc. etc.
So I mean...a feminism that not only doesn't center but doesn't even acknowledge these things just blows my little mind. I don't know what to make of it. I don't understand how a bunch of cis straight middle-class Western white women can think they're the most oppressed people in the bloody world.
and to me, it seems completely bloody obvious that if gender is NOT tied to biology, then the whole essentialist argument for men being in charge is proven false, and so I REALLY don't fucking get how feminists who claim to want to destroy the gender binary can be anything but absolutely thrilled with the existence of trans people, in either direction.
that might be a little too much for people right now, but I'm tired and have work to do, so I said it.
Gailliack [url=http://manatee-boating.org/members/Order-cheap-Buspar-online.aspx]Order cheap Buspar online[/url] [url=http://wiki.openqa.org/display/~buy-mobic-without-no-prescription-online]Buy Mobic without no prescription online[/url]
ReplyDeleteWhere download for free X Rumer 7.0.10 ELITE?
ReplyDeleteSend me URL please!!!
It is the best program for mass posting on forums! XRumer can break most types of captchas!
tramadol online tramadol hcl usp - tramadol 50mg yahoo
ReplyDeleteHowever, America first games NFL(National Football League) furthermore has a feature of Sordan type, Is their bullpen pitching going great or not? Are they right on target in the batter box or are they in a slump? If you want to succeed in baseball betting it is extremely important that you learn and understand the dynamics and nuances of sports handicapping before you decide on your MLB betting picks We have a huge selection of NFL Snapback Hats in all the styles, sizes and colors you need to support your favourite NFL team and celebrate your Giants' 6th World Series win after they knocked off the Rangers to capture the 2011 title with this hatfor European teams and the Euro 2008 available in many soccer jersey shops Owens was not in the lineup during the two playoff victories, and was recovering from a broken ankleHoping to persevere through Phillips leave, the Texans look to extend their franchise-best winning streak to eight games Sunday against the visiting Carolina Panthers
ReplyDeleteClassrooms within this program are smallIt usually good to return to California When writing custom academic essays, we follow all the steps in writing academic essaysAccording to Offshore Sportsbooks, they believe it a 3-horse race between the Philadelphia Phillies, New York Yankees and Boston Red SoxHappy Thanksgiving from the NFLAntonio Bastardo 6S
Jason Pierre-Paul Authentic Jersey
New York Giants Jersey
Victor Cruz Authentic Jersey
[url=http://rebel-gaming.net/index.php?topic=17166.new#new]carefully so that The next thing you[/url]
ReplyDelete[url=http://www.blinkysweb.org/forum/index.php?topic=845386.new#new]also how to store since you might not remember[/url]
[url=http://www.1.lagodelangel.com/smf/index.php?topic=201792.new#new]the leather will the outher washing[/url]
[url=http://lampangunited.net/board/index.php?topic=6817.new#new]take the lining because they[/url]
[url=http://easthealthindonesia.com/forum/index.php?topic=11063.new#new]the leather without lacked proper maintenance[/url]
buy valium purchase valium australia - buy generic valium
ReplyDeleteorder tramadol no prescription tramadol high triglycerides - tramadol dosage 150
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online reviews buy tramadol american express - 3 50 mg tramadol
ReplyDeletetramadol online pharmacy buy tramadol online fedex delivery - buy tramadol online mastercard overnight
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol hcl 50 mg tablets - tramadol for dogs same for humans
ReplyDeleteklonopin pill recreational use of klonopin - weight gain on klonopin
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol with cod tramadol 50mg or 100mg - buy tramadol in florida
ReplyDeletebuy ativan online ativan withdrawal - overdose with ativan
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online cod tramadol hcl 60 mg - tramadol hcl itching
ReplyDeletetramadol buy buy cheap tramadol online uk - ultram medication online
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online buy tramadol online reviews - buy tramadol prescription
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol 180 what is tramadol 50mg side effects - buy tramadol order cheap tramadol online
ReplyDeletebuy zolpidem online price of generic ambien cr - drug interactions ambien nyquil
ReplyDeletebuy ativan online ativan withdrawal and muscle aches - ativan water soluble
ReplyDeleteonline ambien does ambien 10 mg work - ambien the drug
ReplyDeletelorazepam drug lorazepam 1 mg anxiety - ativan withdrawal weight gain
ReplyDeletewhere to buy tramadol tramadol for sale no prescription usa - tramadol recreational dose bluelight
ReplyDeletelegal buy tramadol online buy tramadol generic ultram - tramadol for dogs tablets
ReplyDeleteorder soma soma 107 - soma online us pharmacy
ReplyDeletebuy ambien online ambien stories - ambien side effects memory loss
ReplyDeletegeneric ambien ambien cr side effects long term - ambien vicodin drug interaction
ReplyDeletebuy ativan online ativan dosage per weight - lorazepam 1 mg day
ReplyDeletediscount ambien ambien vs ambien cr reviews - ambien sleeping pills usa
ReplyDeletegeneric ambien ambien pill - long ambien cr your system
ReplyDeletecan you buy tramadol online buy tramadol online free shipping - can overdose tramadol
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol medication online - tramadol dosage extended release
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online cod overnight tramadol 50mg not working - tramadol dosage for pain
ReplyDeletebuy klonopin online overdose of klonopin amount - 2mg klonopin and weed
ReplyDeletebuy soma soma seeds - soma usa online pharmacy
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol medication tramadol 50 mg for ultram - tramadol xanax
ReplyDeletecheapest ambien ambien side effects blood pressure - ambien 10mg street value
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol without rx best place order tramadol online - buy tramadol online india
ReplyDeletetramadol online buy tramadol health solutions - tramadol 50 mg pain killer
ReplyDeleteclonazepam without prescription get prescribed klonopin - klonopin withdrawal memory loss
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol 50mg dogs side effects - tramadol 50 mg iv
ReplyDeletetramadol online buy tramadol bluelight - tramadol dosage renal failure
ReplyDeletesoma online cheap generic soma - capacity of soma san diego
ReplyDeleteambien buy ambien overdose amount - ambien side effects forum
ReplyDeleteklonopin online klonopin 2 mg erowid - paxil and klonopin for anxiety
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol online no prescription needed - tramadol dosage uses
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol 180 tramadol 50 mg extended release - tramadol liver damage
ReplyDeleteambien no prescription ambien side effects in children - online doctor prescription ambien
ReplyDeletebuy viagra online no rx questions generic viagra - can i buy viagra in japan
ReplyDeletebuy viagra toronto buy viagra bristol uk - buy viagra online overnight
ReplyDeleteklonopin online pharmacy side effects stopping klonopin - price of generic klonopin
ReplyDeleteambien online pharmacy ambien zolpidem same - ambien overdose in cats
ReplyDeletegeneric ambien ambien dosage kids - ambien side effects confusion
ReplyDeleteorder ambien online generic ambien no prescription online - ambien generic brand name
ReplyDeletetramadol online buy tramadol with paypal - cheap tramadol dogs
ReplyDelete2mg klonopin klonopin wafers vs tablets - 2mg. klonopin for sleep
ReplyDeletepurchase viagra no prescription order viagra online overnight - purchase viagra online uk
ReplyDeletegeneric ambien what is drug ambien used for - ambien side effects suicidal thoughts
ReplyDeletebuy viagra and cialis online brand viagra online pharmacy - viagra for women and pulmonary hypertension
ReplyDeleteviagra online buy viagra online canada - viagra no prescription needed
ReplyDeletebuy soma 350mg buy real soma online - cheap soma apartments san francisco
ReplyDeletebuy ambien buy brand ambien - ambien pill strengths
ReplyDeletehow to buy viagra online safely can you order viagra canada - buy viagra uk boots
ReplyDeletesoma muscle relaxant stores carry soma bras - buy soma fedex
ReplyDeletebuy zolpidem online ambien side effects common - ambien dosage directions
ReplyDeletebuy klonopin online klonopin erowid dosage - klonopin 2mg price on the streets
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol cod next day delivery buy ultram cod - kind pill tramadol hcl
ReplyDeletesoma muscle relaxant soma intimates online coupons - cheap sheraton soma bay
ReplyDeletebuy viagra usa buy viagra no prescription online - viagra online purchase usa
ReplyDeletebuy ambien ambien instructions - ambien cr expiration
ReplyDeletebuy viagra generic viagra shipped canada - order viagra us
ReplyDeletesoma online rows at soma for sale - soma vainusau
ReplyDeletebuy viagra online cheap viagra online without prescription - viagra online rpsgb
ReplyDeleteviagra online reliable online pharmacy viagra - does viagra work when drinking
ReplyDeletecheap cialis 20mg cialis online australia - buy cialis in china
ReplyDeleteviagra no prescription overnight delivery buy viagra online $0.54 per dose - legitimate online pharmacy viagra
ReplyDeletebuy viagra professional generic viagra delivered to canada' - buy viagra online in canada
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol overnight tramadol 50mg pl - buy tramadol direct
ReplyDeleteviagra online buy viagra tokyo - viagra 100mg online uk
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol 180 tramadol 75 mg - discount tramadol online
ReplyDeletebuy soma 350mg soma hindu - soma generic dosage
ReplyDeletebuy viagra online cheap brand name viagra online - buy viagra online new york
ReplyDeleteorder generic viagra online viagra online purchase - viagra buy australia
ReplyDeletebuy viagra cheap generic viagra dosage - generic viagra discussion forum
ReplyDeleteorder viagra online cheap where to buy viagra in lincoln uk - buy viagra online review
ReplyDeletetramadol online tramadol over the counter - tramadol 50 mg get high
ReplyDeleteviagra no prescription overnight delivery generic viagra thailand - does viagra work for premature ejaculation
ReplyDeleteviagra online viagra mg - buy cheap viagra online uk
ReplyDeletebuy cialis daily cialis recommended daily dosage - ordering cialis online canada
ReplyDeletebuy viagra online generic viagra online in canada - cheap viagra quick delivery
ReplyDeletetramadol online buy tramadol online australia no prescription - tramadol 50 mg dose for dogs
ReplyDeletebuy cialis generic cialis 200mg - buy eli lilly cialis
ReplyDeletebuy viagra from canada buy viagra stores uk - can you buy viagra from canada legally
ReplyDeletebuy cialis super active generic cialis india pharmacy - cialis results review
ReplyDeletetramadol online no prescription buy tramadol cheap no prescription - tramadol dosage daily
ReplyDeletecheap sildenafil buy viagra online ship to canada - cheap viagra uk site
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online order cheap tramadol cod - tramadol withdrawal insomnia
ReplyDeletepropecia hair loss buy propecia online - propecia side effects liver
ReplyDeletebuy retin-a coupon for retin a gel - retin-a cream for ingrown hairs
ReplyDeletecheap generic propecia propecia cost uk - where can i buy cheapest propecia online
ReplyDeletecialis sale cialis+0800 - order cialis online with prescription
ReplyDeleteorder viagra online overnight viagra for women pfizer - viagra dosage in dogs
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online where to buy tramadol in usa - cheap tramadol online usa
ReplyDeletebuy propecia generic propecia 4rx - generic propecia
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol cod overnight tramadol hcl addiction - buytramadol.ca
ReplyDeletebuy retin-a retin a micro over the counter - buy retin a cream for wrinkles
ReplyDeletetramadol online buy tramadol no prescription 100 mg - tramadol 50 mg dog
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online buy tramadol free shipping - tramadol like ultram
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol hcl 25 - zodol-tramadol 50 mg
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online without a prescription tramadol 100mg vaikutusaika - tramadol high much
ReplyDeletetramadol 100mg tramadol 50mg for toothache - dosage of tramadol for humans
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol with paypal tramadol high opiate tolerance - tramadol ingredients medicine
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online without a prescription can you buy tramadol over counter - buy tramadol online cash delivery
ReplyDeletetramadol 50mg buy tramadol ultram ultracet online - buy tramadol online cash on delivery
ReplyDeletepropecia hair loss propecia generic cheap - propecia 1mg results
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol cod overnight buy tramadol in usa - tramadol withdrawal wikipedia
ReplyDeletebuy retin-a retin a micro information - buy retin-a micro online usa
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol online - buy tramadol 24x7
ReplyDeletebuy propecia buy propecia usa - order generic propecia online
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol 100mg online order tramadol with money order - tramadol overdose mg
ReplyDeletepropecia 1mg order propecia - when is a generic of propecia coming out
ReplyDeletetramadol 50mg buy tramadol overnight shipping - tramadol hcl 50
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol order tramadol online uk - buy tramadol uk
ReplyDeletetramadol 50mg canadian tramadol no prescription - ordertramadolonline
ReplyDeleteorder finasteride propecia reviews consumer reports - propecia side effects dissipate
ReplyDeletebuy retin-a online retin a micro pump rebate - retin a 0.01 gel para que sirve
ReplyDeletebuy propecia order propecia canada no prescription - pro hair x propecia
ReplyDeletefinasteride 5mg propecia psa results - dutasteride vs propecia side effects
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol buy tramadol online 100mg - tramadol 25mg
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online cheap tramadol next day - buy tramadol cod overnight
ReplyDeletegeneric strattera strattera sleeping pills - strattera weight loss vs adderall
ReplyDeletetramadol 50mg cheapest tramadol online no prescription needed - tramadol hcl 50 mg reviews
ReplyDeletetramadol 50mg buy tramadol rx - tramadol hcl 50 mg injection
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol hcl fibromyalgia - tramadol recreational use dosage
ReplyDeletecheap viagra cheap viagra in europe - viagra cost
ReplyDeletegeneric cialis cialis price thailand - cialis+pharmacy reviews
ReplyDeletetramadol no prescription tramadol vs oxycodone - tramadol max dose
ReplyDeletegeneric cialis cialis price australia - cialis online forum
ReplyDeletebuy cialis cialis alternative - cialis price daily
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol buy tramadol online no prescription - buy tramadol cod
ReplyDeletecheap tramadol tramadol online 180 - buy tramadol cash on delivery
ReplyDeletecialis professional buy cialis in south africa - buy cialis online legal
ReplyDeletecheap viagra buy viagra online rx - viagra buy us no prescription
ReplyDeletebuy cialis order generic cialis online no prescription - cialis coupon walgreens
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol hcl good pain - buy ultram tramadol
ReplyDeletecheap viagra buy viagra online london - viagra for women and pulmonary hypertension
ReplyDeletecialis professional where can i buy cialis genuine - generic cialis mail order
ReplyDeletegeneric viagra viagra 100mg - cheap viagra alternative
ReplyDeletegeneric viagra online viagra cialis online us - cheap viagra 100mg australia
ReplyDeletecialis pills order cialis online no prescription canada - get real cialis online
ReplyDeletecheap viagra viagra 600mg - viagra soft tabs dosage
ReplyDeletecheap generic cialis order cialis over internet - cialis 2.5 online
ReplyDeletebuy cialis buy cialis online for cheap - buy cialis online usa
ReplyDeletecialis no prescription лекарство new cialis - cialis online paypal payment
ReplyDeletebuy soma online soma yoga pants - buy soma stanyan
ReplyDeletebuy cialis online cheap can you order cialis online - nhs price cialis
ReplyDeletebuy cialis viagra cialis price comparison - questions generic cialis
ReplyDeletebuy soma online buy aura soma london - soma junebug
ReplyDeleteviagra online viagra online rpsgb - order viagra by mail
ReplyDeletesoma for sale soma drug in a brave new world - medication soma carisoprodol
ReplyDeleteviagra online buy generic viagra new zealand - viagra online ireland
ReplyDeletebuy cheap soma soma muscle relaxer high - soma medication alcohol
ReplyDeletebuy soma online no prescription mission soma san diego yelp - soma muscle relaxer erowid
ReplyDeleteviagra pills purchase viagra las vegas - what does viagra for women
ReplyDeleteviagra online viagra online forum - buy viagra online in us
ReplyDeleteonline soma mission soma san diego yelp - soma san diego girl talk
ReplyDeletebuy soma online generic soma online - tramadol soma online
ReplyDeletebuy soma online buy soma 350 mg - pictures of generic soma
ReplyDeletesoma online soma embraceable bra - best place buy soma online
ReplyDeletesoma online buy generic soma online - buy soma blocks
ReplyDeletebuy cialis online cialis joke video - cialis long term effects
ReplyDeleteretin a skin buy retin a from usa - buy retin a micro gel 0.04
ReplyDeletebuy soma cheap motels soma - what is soma for muscle relaxer
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol india ultram tramadol for depression - best site purchase tramadol
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online mastercard overnight buy tramadol safely - buy tramadol free shipping
ReplyDeletebuy retin-a online retin a cream side effects - retin-a for acne pits
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol saturday delivery buy ultram from canada - tramadol 50 mg bluelight
ReplyDeletecheap tramadol tramadol online reliable - get high tramadol 50mg
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol tramadol 37.5 get high - tramadol 50mg information
ReplyDeleteorder tramadol tramadol dosage 150 - tramadol for dogs to buy
ReplyDeletebuy retin a retin a cream target - retin a gel 0.025 side effects
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol cheap no prescription buy cheap tramadol overnight - buy tramadol bluelight
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol buy tramadol in uk no prescription - tramadol hcl nausea
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol overnight shipping tramadol apap high - cheap tramadol pharmacy
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol 50 mg tablets side effects - buy tramadol online no prescription usa
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol medication no prescription - buy tramadol online echeck
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online cod tramadol hcl zydol 50mg - tramadol hcl zydol 50mg
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol online tramadol 50 mg tablets dosage - getting off tramadol withdrawal
ReplyDeletetramadol no prescription tramadol 50mg with alcohol - tramadol back pain
ReplyDeletebuy tramadol cod overnight par 822 tramadol - tramadol online pharmacy no prescription needed
ReplyDeletecialis online buy cialis usa - buy cialis without prescriptions
ReplyDeletehttp://landvoicelearning.com/#38471 there generic form tramadol - order tramadol no prescription overnight
ReplyDelete