Sunday, September 20, 2009

Have I mentioned lately that I execrate Cultural Feminists of the FluffyBunny Wicca-y type?


Well, I do.

Sadly, I can't recount the entire story here, as it involves a listserve whose email isn't really for public consumption.

Suffice it to say that I firmly believe that if you anthropomorphize the moon to the point where this story drives you into a state of utter panic and mourning WHAT HAVE WE BECOME, sending out calls for a mass protest and vigil against the "insane" "dudes" of NASA who would DARE to harm our sister-goddess' body like this? to the point where you say you can't "bear" to do the research to confirm the details of the story?

And then, when someone snarks her dissent -very mildly- at you, you are "driven to tears?" and then -separately-, after that, after an (admittedly not very heartfelt) apology from said snarker, said snarker then posts a snark-free link to the story for public interest, and you email back that y'all already KNOW "these facts" but the snarker needs to let it go because you're "grieving" anyway?

This + this = you are driving me to increasing levels of sadism, Fluffy Dianic Too Sensitive To Live Person.

and I mean. a -graduate- student. wtf critical thinking skills...? oh, right, those are from the Patriarchy, never mind.

nyargh.

EDIT In fact, I feel compelled to burst into Song. and so I shall.




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Comrade PhysioProf said...

You're so cute when you're angry!

GallingGalla said...

ah, those Ladies Of The MoonBlood must have gotton Discover Mag to pull the article you link to, because i'm getting "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria".

i lol'd at "wiclets".

SnowdropExplodes said...

GG: the article is atcualy there, just the link doesn't work properly.

It's the second article down in this page:

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2006/04/10/

Worth noting, the story came out in 2006, about a mission scheduled to be launched in 2008 (and actually launched in June this year). It seems the LCROSS will make its impact on October 9

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LCROSS/main/LCROSS_crater.html

It would only encourage such idiocy from these people if we were to mention that the size of the impact versus the size of the moon itself puts this on a par with a fleabite to the moon's "body", even if it were in any way shape or form capable of feeling anything.

annaham said...

These sound like the same type of "pagans" who tell me that I should try vitamins or some miracle supplement for my chronic pain, because supplements/St. Asshat's Wart or whatever are NATURAL and therefore MAGICKAL.

Lol.

Lynn Gazis-Sax said...

I'm reminded of the dream I had that began with people rioting in the streets demanding war with the moon, except I guess this is the reverse.

belledame222 said...

Lynn: haha, yeah.

Anna: o indeed. St. Asshat was a famous martyred wymyn you know, and her Wort cures all if you believe hard enough. or if you clap enough, I forget which.

"it wasn't enough. You didn't clap hard enough. Tinkerbell's dead."

--Christopher Durang

SDE: I -did- mention that, at least the part about the crater being trivial, that the moon's 'ad worse and so on, and this was apparently what drove wossname to email me again to implore me to "let it go" as she and her Sisters Who Support Her In Emails wish to "grieve" without the intrusion of, you know, facts. Srsly.

CPP: ZOT

belledame222 said...

GG thanks, fixing link -sigh- it must be a hex...

SnowdropExplodes said...

this was apparently what drove wossname to email me again to implore me to "let it go" as she and her Sisters Who Support Her In Emails wish to "grieve" without the intrusion of, you know, facts. Srsly

The attempt to find some form of intelligent life on planet Earth continues...

Dw3t-Hthr said...

I swear, there are times I feel like I have a male lunar deity just to piss these people off.

CrackerLilo said...

All this, and Pagan Pride Day is coming up next weekend!

Yeah, I'm feelin' real proud right now...

@ Anne: Anytime someone tells me that kind of shit, I like to remind them that:

1. The ingredients for every kind of medication come from the Earth in some form or fashion.

2. Poison ivy is also a natural herb.

Kristen said...

Just a reminder that people are endlessly stupid. Also, Hawaii is not a state and our education system is doing just fine

Alon Levy said...

Hey, every group of people has its delusional paranoids. Muslims are disproportionately Truthers, Jews are disproportionately anti-Arab, Christians are disproportionately creationists, Wiccans are disproportionately anti-medicine.

Christina said...

/sharing with my daughter immediately/

She is in danger of becoming a Fluffbunny, I hate to say.

Renegade Evolution said...

oh man, thanks for the laugh. People...pfft.

Comrade PhysioProf said...

ZOT

OW!

Mandos said...

You should ask her what she thought of Neil Armstrong, and the symbolism of a MAN walking on the face of MoonSisterGoddess.

Mandos said...

I mean, rocketpenis, launched by the USA up into space, landing on the moon and spewing forth a white/White substance...

Say, has anyone written any USA/moon slash fic?

belledame222 said...

I leave the research of that subject to you.

Mandos said...

Well I googled it and there is a Failure of Rule 34 in aisle 9...

The closest I could find is this. (Safe for work, IMO, IANAL.)

Comrade Physioprof said...

The Sun is such a narsty woman-hating rag, I'm gonna guess that the premise of the article is that the Moon was asking for it. amirite?

Mandos said...

No, it's about how NASA techs snuck Playboy pages into the manuals that Neil Armstrong brought with him to the moon, meaning---by implication---that naked pics of women have been to the moon before actual women have.

Which I do think is more than a little sad but would make for an amusing Twisty/Jill post if someone were to tell her about it.

Mandos said...

But as an aside, Heart seems to have completely dropped off the interwebs, which is sad. Actually, it turns out that their own infighting seems to have broken their community more than eg the Anonymous Horde did. Of course AROOO is still going strong, with this awesome post.

To make this appeal, straight women must also equate lesbian sexual experience with the male usage of female bodies, as if males masturbating their penises inside women’s and girls’ bodies is exactly the same thing as female people giving and receiving physical pleasure from one another.

...

The truth is that the nature of maleness is parasitical, and there is no corollary, no counterpart, for this aggressive dependence in female human beings. Concepts founded on maleness as the standard are simply poor references for female ways of being, even though female ways of being have certainly been affected and influenced by these male standards.


This is the first time that they've explicitly said that maleness == parasitism, though of course they've implied it many times. I should point out that I made similar points in a different context at VS when she was still sane.

I'm still waiting for them to reveal their plan (The Virus? An uprising?) and what their utopia is going to look like. This is no doubt going to come from Margaret, who is the Brain to Kitty's Pinky, but way better than a Saturday morning cartoon.

And of course, this is already a fetish.

belledame222 said...

Mandos, could you please not hyperlink those from here at least?

(having glanced at it)

"Keep fuckin' that chicken."

They're horrible and they hate everyone. They come out with more foul bigoted crap. Film at eleven. Wake me when they finally turn on each other, having eaten everyone else.

belledame222 said...

"Soubrettes de Maitresse Xena" sounds like -much- more fun than anything these chodes have come up with. I'm down.

Mandos said...

Oh, sorry I forgot about the not linking bit.

Did you check the forums on the gynarchy site? For just a split second I thought it was serious, but then very quickly I realized that it was kink. A particularly hilarious kink.

Mandos said...

But you do realize what the AROOOvians are saying, right? They've come full circle. This post was essentially a critique of political lesbianism. Meta on top of meta.

belledame222 said...

-having glanced- Looks like fairly standard fantasy of a certain subset, actually. The Aristasians (sp?) are more creative, and simply don't bother with men at all to the best of my recollection.

"Dominate you? I want to ELIMINATE you!" That's what turns -me- on!"

--Hothead Paisan, right before she explodes a rapist's lawyer (who drunkenly assumes she's coming on to him) in an alley with dynamite, Wile E Coyote style

belledame222 said...

tbh Mandos I'm not scrutinizing them that closely at this point. yes, even I have limits to Horrible People On The Internets fetish.

Mandos said...

There are horrible people and then there are horrible people. While sometimes there are lulz to be had from eg white supremacists, they're generally too dangerous to be funny. What makes the eliminationist-cultfem crowd funny is the futility and the ever-shrinking size of the bush wherearound they beat.

belledame222 said...

Yeah, something about the invocation of "faggots" and constant trans-bashing sort of dampens the lulz for me, here, I'm afraid.

belledame222 said...

Rather a visceral response, there. I don't tend to associate that shit with "funny," even if it's currently coming from someone who's largely ineffectual irl.

belledame222 said...

I mean, they may not be dangerous -to you- but...

belledame222 said...

I mean, there's a difference between insignificant people waving their wee fisties about getting rid of half the population of the earth via just -wishing- it or something, and invoking word for word the same hateful shit that marginalized populations tend to hear right before they get the crap beaten out of them or worse.

Mandos said...

Alright, fair enough. I can understand why esp transpeople can see these folk as enabling very dangerous things, even if they themselves have their pictures in the dictionary next to "pointless".

The thing about extremists, though, is that they have an ability to cut to the chase very quickly, and they have an ability to expose actual ideological and even physical divides in the real world. That makes what they say very interesting to me. I think it's true that if we take the world of biological reproduction out of context of the rest of our social lives, there are some parallels between reproductive/biological maleness and parasitism.

Mandos said...

Gack stupid blogger ate my last comment. It was a somewhat lengthy ones about the salutary and redeeming benefits of extremist choads.

Mandos said...

Oh, it didn't eat my comment. Never mind.

Alon Levy said...

So, basically, those people are chastity belt kinksters. Fine.

belledame222 said...

yeah, pretty run of the mill. also what the male wadfems would embrace if they had any self-honesty.

belledame222 said...

Mandos, do you think you're a parasite? There's fetish niches for that as well, you know...

Alon Levy said...

Some of them already do. The CB porn I've seen is about 90% F/m, but most of it is written by the sub, who talks about how great it is to be locked, cuckolded, or feminized.

Mandos said...

BD222: Obviously not. I said that it had parallels, not that it *was*.

BUT, in a society or situation in which biological reproduction is the highest form of immortality to which one can aspire, which perhaps excludes all among us who can commit their words to print and archive, the asymmetrical roles of spermulators and gestators in reproduction has got to have some consequences.

Mary Sunshine (my favorite!) writes in that thread of "Female Being unmodified". For her this is the last stand of a grand Essential Female. If you define yourself as Essentially Female, what could you possible conclude about sperm-generators?

That's sort of what I mean whan I refer to this kind of cultural/radical feminism/separatism as women's nationalism. Much as Serbian nationalists obsessed over the Essential Serb. (I have a friend with many Serbian relatives who is nevertheless not defined as an Essential Serb because he cannot trace his ancestry to someone who fought and lost to the Turks at the Battle of Sch-n-Sch Toomany Consnts; or something like that.)

belledame222 said...

Okay, but if you -were- a parasite, what kind would you be?

Mandos said...

That's a difficult question, but I'd have to go with the crystalline entity.

Alon Levy said...

Helminths > crystalline entities

Mandos said...

Speaking of parasites, Margaret continues to elucidate her theory:


For me, just the fact that females are not sperm-producing parasites says it all. That pathetic state of being is the essential nature of maleness. It is from that difference that all of the differences in female and male ways of being derive. It’s the essential femaleness that Mary’s always talking about. We’re female down to a sub-cellular level; everything about us is female. Femaleness is elemental. Our entire experiences are different from males’, and not just because they enforce certain restrictions on females, but because to be in this world as a parasite is an entirely different experience than to exist as the host who has the power to choose whether the parasite lives or dies. These differences cannot be enumerated.

So wymyn, have you chosen the fate of YOUR parasite today?

BTW, I was wrong about the dwama. All of this from AROOO is actually response to dwama now being levied against pisaquaririse. The content of the conflict is itself interesting in that AROOO has been pushed into the position of defending the idea that lesbianism is not only---or even basically---a political orientation, putting themselves on the same side as polly styrene (also figuring in this), effectively. Starting from a very different POV, of course.

Oh, and guess what: all of this actually seems to start with Twisty...

belledame222 said...

Danse Gooshers!

belledame222 said...

The thing about "non-tracking" cat litter is, there is no such thing. I'm thinking vaguely about suing. What's the opposite of a class action lawsuit? Like, there'd just be me suing, but I'd be suing all the cat litter brands there are at once.

belledame222 said...

And then there's the question of do we bring in the cat as a witness. I mean assuming I'm self-representing, of course. It seems like a fun and potentially even productive hobby, quixotic lawsuits. I mean, compared to some hobbies.

Mandos said...

Cat Congress Mired in Sunbeam

belledame222 said...

excellent.

Tom Nolan said...

I'm going to take advantage of an old-style Fetch me my Axe thread to mention the fact that Violet's gone from bad to worse with her most recent anti-Michelle Obama thread. I won't link to it, but go and read. Then go and shower.

belledame222 said...

Tom! Was just thinking about you ectually. How's life? How's puddings?

Tom Nolan said...

Last year of the PhD coming up. Totally unprepared!!!

You ok, Belle?

belledame222 said...

Yeah, I'm good, thanks! Second year of program, getting a "life," spending much of online energy on Twitter b/c it's what i have attention span/energy for.

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