Between this charming piece of "art"
and the revolting ads for the motherfucking Tucker Max piece of shit all over -my- city (can't we have a ban?)
and the upcoming Roman Polanski nauseafest about to take over the media for the next ever...
among way too many others
i am not feeling the love today
**the "rape tunnel" would appear to be a hoax. to be honest I hadn't even gotten as far as someone was suggesting he was actually going to -do- it. It pisses me off enough that someone--like, o I don't know, Tucker Max? and the people putting ads like "Blind Girls Can't See You Coming" all over the goddam walls (unpeelable, I tried) not only think such things are hilarious and clever and "art" but get paid fuckloads to spray that shit all over everyone?
Enough.
164 comments:
Having a glass of wine now and contemplating finding out where this POS lives.
How anybody could have believed that the 'rape tunnel' was anything other than an unfunny attempt at Onion-esque humor DEEPLY concerns me.
The whole point of Tucker Max is that he's a complete dickhead asshole and those posters are MEANT to be offensive. You're not MEANT to like him. Read the damn book.
And I agree with you on Roman Polanski. I don't care if he's a great artist OR that it was 30 years ago - he STILL raped a 13-year-old and deserves to face the music.
Champaigneandbenzedrine,
You know, I should just shorten your name to 'Drugs'R'Bad', so much quicker to type - it has the apparent bonus of me being just a - bit - of an extrapolative ass, but asshole behavior that negatively impacts others is apparently A-okay! in your world, so what's a little name change matter?
The actions that others like Max & Co. are allowed to advocate harm, and by brushing it off, you're helping them. And if you think laughter and jokes aren't a form of expressing approval, then I dunno what to tell you.
But, see, the thing is, no one with any modicum of decency gives a fuck that Max and Co. aren't supposed to be liked. Because they - are - liked, by hordes of people, and their actions and words hurt others.
Frankly, I'm surprised you think people wouldn't have believed the 'rape tunnel', considering all the - other - shit that people like to djoke about and make reference to, not to mention - what - actually goes on the in the world today. Considering you mentioned Polanski in the same breadth, well, now - there's - an example of irony.
I mean, the point about the rape tunnel wasn't that people believed "wow, they're getting an NEA grant and some people will actually crawl through it and he'll rape them." Point being, whether there's an actual guy with an actual tunnel thinking he's the next Andy Kaufman or just some dumbass writing bargain basement Onion "news" hoping to be picked up (as appears to be the case), it's, well, fairly loathsome. and all too typical.
It reminds me of the "Cuttin' Up Hookers" T-shirts: it's -always- "hey, lighten up (bitch)," it's a joke. Of -course- it's a "joke." Because it isn't -real- to them Because the people they're 'joking' about aren't people to them. Get it? -poke hard- Get it?...
Champagne...just no. Check your head. Think before you speak. Before you ask questions of others ask yourself wtf you're thinking before you respond. Seriously.
Check...your...f*cking...head.
Lookin' over at C&B's blog, and I remember why I never got into the whole "sex blogger" thing, "sex positive" or otherwise.
blah blah my cock blah blah stereotyped hedonism blah blah did I mention how awesome I am? my life strongly resembles a Penthouse Letter/Andrew
Blake Film blah relentless heteronormativity although I can appreciate bisexuality aren't I edgy blah blah Sugasm blah me me me blah zzzZZzzzz
Oooo, apparently being attracted to women who are trans makes him not quite straight.
Yeah, DrugsAreBad is a real winner. -_-
don't forget the "boy crush" on Captain Jack. congratulations: I've got one too. -Who doesn't?-
-and- he decided smart chicks are hawt after he met a sexy librarian type who, despite not being as much of the Ten who was a Terrible Lay, knew -Kama Sutra-, dewd. Isn't it great to be open-minded?
also, Hugh Hefner knew how to par-tay.
Wow...good to have people like C&B around once in a while to remind me that I'm actually not just a misinformed version of the commenters in the article above.
There's rather a difference between someone like Tucker Max and say, someone like Stephen Colbert.
In the case of Stephen Colbert, his character is an unlikeable, entitled, rich ass. But those qualities are never shown in a positive light. You're expected to get the impression that he's detached from reality, nobody around him likes him, and that he's generally not a force for good. And on top of that he's frequently shown to FAIL specifically because of the above traits.
Contrast with someone like Tucker Max where it's all of the above, but minus the negative portrayal. You may not be expected to like them, but they are almost invariably portrayed as successful and their bullshit is rarely treated as such, instead it's usually portrayed as being knowledge that only someone unbound by social norms would get.
Ohma we're not misinformed. In your world it may(or may not) be okay to anally rape a 13-year-old and work through the multiple varieties of spin and feel clever for it-but-in any situation: No means no. The end.
No matter who comments on it and blah,blah,blah-a 13-year-old said no to a 40-something year-old-and was ignored. The end. Do not get lost in your own head.
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@ Lili
Uh?
I was talking about the commenters on that "Anatomy of a Tucker Max Joke" article. The ones who (like C&B) excused the ads by saying "well it's supposed to be offensive lol :V". I was saying that there are two ways you can play an offensive character, one is subversive, like with Colbert, and the other just reinforces negative cultural attitudes.
I'm not sure what the rest of your post was referencing...but...yes?
Forgive me Ohma I thought you meant the commenters on this stream in regard to the article. The rest of the post was just meant to make the point that this particular situation is not a joking matter(in my opinion)at all-no matter what perspective taken.
It's just a hot button issue for me. Again my apologies.
Yeah, Stephen Colbert has a moral center; he's satirizing right wing fuckheads to mock them. Tucker Max is doing no such thing; he's doing that crap where you act as assholian as you want to and then slap an "irony" sticker on it, which is basically just the slightly updated gloss on the age-old "whatsa matta, dontcha have a sense of humor?"
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@ Lili
Oh, okay. After re-reading my comment I realize I was super unclear about who and what I was talking about. Sorry 'bout that. ;>_>
But that does help illustrate how pervasive the sort of attitude exemplified by the commenters defending the Tucker Max stuff is (particularly on the internet).
WOW! Belledame22, I'm flattered my one comment was so inspirational you felt obliged to respond to it seventy gazillion times.
Who wrote this?
"Contrast with someone like Tucker Max where it's all of the above, but minus the negative portrayal."
Erm, have you actually read the book? Because I certainly didn't not walk away from it with a feeling that Tucker's behavior was admirable, acceptable or positive. But that's just me - a rational human being who actually READS this shit before he rails about how awful it is.
Welcome to the world of art and literature. Sometimes it's edgy, offensive and vulgar. In fact, if it doesn't elicit a reaction, it's not good art. I'm sorry you feel every act of expression should fit into a neatly homogeneous mould of what YOU feel is 'acceptable.' If that's the model you were looking for, you've have done great in Germany in the 1930s or Communist Russia.
This is America, where we have the first amendment that protects freedom of speech in most cases. And however offensive and vulgar you feel Tucker Max's books and film to be, it's not an incitement to commit a crime, so it's entirely acceptable expression and might just be a BIT deeper than you have the ability to grasp.
(Seriously, read the book - Tucker Max's disgusting behavior is perhaps why he's a lonely, embittered idiot. It's tragedy, not comedy.)
Personally, I find crucifixes covered in feces, or women painting with their menstrual blood, to be pretty gross and disgusting, yet I'm sure you'd defend their artistic expression and so do it. That's what art is.
Didn't you learn that in High School or something?
Champagne why do you persist in pushing your argument here? It's something akin to coming to someone's house(Belle's in this case) and attempting to shout them down to make your point.
Tread lightly...and please do carry yourself back to your own board and take your personal message with you. Have the sense to know when something you're saying is not welcome.
Just a suggestion...
With all due respect, Lili, Belle posts a public blog, actively soliciting responses - and given the aggressive nature of her writing, she can't expect all people to agree with her.
I actually REALLY admire the way she allows unmoderated comments on here and doesn't delete them, even when they disagree with her point of view and point out where she's wrong. That takes the kind of guts a lot of bloggers don't have.
If you can't handle having your positions challenged, perhaps that's because your positions aren't quite as solid as you'd like them to appear.
Belle, on the other hand, is always guaranteed to give as good as she gets and appears to have the confidence to stick to what she writes.
I'm perfectly willing to believe that the book may actually not be glorifying the character, since until reading about the ads for the movie I had no idea they existed.
But considering that "lol get it? cause [group that isn't straight white males] suck mirite?" style humor seems much more likely to me, until I've seen something to refute my impressions of the book/movie/whatever (say...some quotes demonstrating that the narrative doesn't want me to think that the main characters actions or beliefs are either desirable or justified), I don't think I'm going to budge on my opinion (and I doubt anyone else would either).
Champagne: Fair point. I'm sure Belle is leaping for joy knowing that YOU admire HER. Let's do wait and see how Belle responds to your "Solid position."
As for my position: It is very simply this: Child rape is not a laughing matter-in any circumstance.For any reason. Period.
Do YOU understand?
What does Tucker Max have to do with child rape, pray tell?
Oh don't be flattered, most people here will tell you i often multiple post. It's one of my more endearing habits, really.
and: no, actually the First Amendment doesn't cover "who gets to have their stupid-ass hateful book published , made into films, and turned into an ad campaign plastered all over the fucking city" any more than it covers "giving a fuck about who lets whom comment with what on a personal blog."
My own commenting policy is: at minimum, at least don't be -completely- tedious. Which "no shoes not shirt," I have to tell you, CB you're not exactly passing with flying colors.
For those who haven't had the pleasure of reading Max's oeuvre and don't particularly feel like READING THE DAMN BOOK, there are plenty of samples all over his blog. For instance:
Fatty "What did you say?"
Tucker "Can you not hear me? Are your ears fat too?"
Fatty [Look of astonishment, stares at my friends cracking up] "EXCUSE ME?"
Tucker "I'm sorry. Really I am. [I open the fridge] Would you like cheesecake or chocolate cake? Probably both, I'm guessing."
Fatty [Turns and leaves in utter astonishment]
Tucker "Hey Sara Lee, I was only kidding! COME BACK HERE--MY FRIEND LIKES TO GO HOGGIN. MORE CUSHION FOR THE PUSHIN! IT'S LIKE RIDING A MOPED!!"
...Tucker "Seriously--If I stuck my dick in your mouth would that shut you up?"
Girl "Wha...YOU ARE SUCH AN ASSHOLE!"
Tucker "HEY--Don't blame me for the wound in your crotch." [As I walk off] "By the way, you owe us a rib."
10:31: I turn to Rich and Eddie: "She'll never recover from that. She'll never be the same. I've completely ruined a human being. Years of expensive therapy and costly drugs can't reverse that kind of damage...yeah, I have an upper management role in Hell reserved for me." Rich looks at me and says into the voice recorder, "Damage assessment: Total." I got the joke the next day.
11:16: The fat girl from the first kitchen encounter comes over. With reinforcements. Her backup: A small frail dork that looks like he just finished a Magic The Gathering tournament, a heinous Asian girl, and a greasy haired fat doofus in a camouflage vest. I ask you--Am I here right now? Is this my life?...
[I interrupt the fat girl] "Ward, I think you're being a little hard on the Beaver, [as I point to each in turn] so is Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Miss Cleaver."
[To the fat guy with greasy hair in the camo vest] "Look out everyone! It's the Pillsbury Commando! Hey Chunk, when was the last time you washed your hair? Does it give you more hit points to have that grease helmet? I hate to break the news, but +5 defense only counts in Dungeons and Dragons."
[To the ugly Asian girl] "Why you no rike me? You want me frip over? You no piss me off! ME FIND YOU IN POCKING ROT!! YOU NO TAKE MING ARIVE!!"
[To the small frail dork--I notice he has a lazy eye] "Dude--Look at me when I'm talking to you--BOTH EYES AT ONCE. Are you really this ugly or are you just playing? EVERYONE, BE CAREFUL, THIS GUY LURKS UNDER THE STAIRS AND TRIES TO LICK YOUR SHOES WHEN YOU PASS BY!"
[To the original fatty, pause for effect] "Why do you do this to yourself? WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO YOURSELF? Look, I'm gonna give you some advice-leave the party, take the geek squad with you, go to Denny's, order about 10 Grand Slam Breakfasts, and eat your pain away. Won't be the first time will it?"
11:19: I am finished. The kitchen is quiet, except for Eddie and Rich laughing. The four freaks are completely speechless. Everyone is staring at me. I blurt out, "WHAT? I'm pretty sure it's what Jesus would've done." Eddie and Rich promptly remove me from the kitchen.
11:42: The absinthe is kicking into third gear. I am feeling euphoric. Manic even. This is the weirdest drunk I've ever had. I decide it is time to get my little pencil wet.
...etc., ad nauseum.
See, because anyone who's ever actually been on the -receiving- end of this kind of charm (because most fat people or people with "lazy eyes" -never- hear this shit on a fucking -regular- basis) are totally gratified when decides to get his shit together enough to sell his ain't-I-cute memoirs for fuckloads of cash. Certainly, the addition of such oevures as TM's to the culture -reduces- the likelihood that yet another generation of spoiled white straight boys is confirmed in their belief that the world is their own personal pissing ground, and everyone else in it is either a prop or a punchline.
No, wait, don't tell me: I missed the subtle part. Tucker Max is like Nabakov, really. And you don't remotely identify with him, which is why you're showing up to defend him, right, Champagne and Benzredrine?
"Personally, I find crucifixes covered in feces, or women painting with their menstrual blood, to be pretty gross and disgusting, yet I'm sure you'd defend their artistic expression and so do it. That's what art is.
Didn't you learn that in High School or something?"
Funny man, trying to tell others that a compilation of offensive, parroted offal could in any way be considered relevant to stand if left to its own merit. Even crosses with shit give rise to thought on exactly what the various Christian faiths have accomplished in their less than stellar moments, and what affects it's had collective and individually on society.
Art is some level of skill, creativity, a beauty that pleases/makes people think, and/or a single/collection of significant works from a culture.
Shit and crucifixes infringes no ones rights, and neither does someone using their own bodily fluids in their own works that has cultural significance.
Tucker Max, however, along with those poster-people on the 'blind chicks can't see you coming.' wrt - rape -, of all things, that is neither creative or a skill (jackasses say shit like that daily) or a work to make you think. It isn't, in short, art, so god only knows what they taught - you - in high school, but I loath people like that fucking up my field. What that shit - is -, is parroting of words and media messages that encourage harm. It sure as hell ain't art, not even a kissing cousin.
Also, you know, whatever one thinks of Andre Serrano, he has technical skill: the "Piss Christ" (I assume this is what I Don't Know Much About Art, But I Know What I'm Entitled To As An Entitled-Amurrican' Is referring to) is a) not his only work by any means b) still aesthetically well composed.
I'm not a particular fan of Karen Finley; I find her pretentious and annoying; but at least I don't have to watch "Yams Up My Granny's Ass" on the way to work/school every goddam day. Nor is "Yams Up My Granny's Ass" suspiciously reminiscent of the sort of thing I heard for free nearly every damn day in high school.
"Do you piss and shit all over public sidewalks, too?"
Daisy,
You know, there was a convo on Feministe a while back that was awfully similar, the writer thought it was 'okay enough' to piss in public. Who knew.
Those of us old enough to remember the NEA Four and so forth, by the way, also remember Andrew Dice Clay, who sounded just an awful lot like Max and was defended in much the same terms by much the same people. It's funny, see, because he -knows- he's a loser, and so do the hordes of grinning fuckwits cheering him on, making his fortune, and repeating his jokes like they're the funniest goddam thing they ever heard. Asshole white men being hostile toward everyone else and getting rewarded for it: neither new nor a scarce commodity. I know it's hard to believe.
It's not actually all that uncommon in this or other urban neighborhoods I've lived in on weekends (drunk men pissing on the sidewalk).
What I mean is, the behavior of Max, his pals and sympathizers seem to be about as prolific as the "It's okay, as long as I do it" people, with exactly - no - thought to others trying to, say, - not - fall in the puddle.
Oh of course it is. They're not "people," after all, and it's not like one has any responsibility to anyone besides oneself at the end of the day.
--aw, how sweet, look, guys! I got my very own post at C&B's! I guess I should be "flattered" in return. I'm an "idiot," apparently. I am, by cracky. Like I said, just too goddam subtle for me, this. I wish I were as smart and sophisticated as C&B, I do.
Belle, I am impressed! When they write about you on their own blog, that means you really got to em, big time.
Good job!
mmf. maybe i can make a memoir of it, and sell it.
Good Lord, look at all that carrying-on. This guy is obviously in love with Tucker Max. Not that there's anything wrong with that!
I remember when I was young, and if anyone said anything bad about David Cassidy or Iggy Pop? I'd come at them like the proverbial house afire. Teenybopper crushes are so cute!
PS: I love the constant references to "BelleDame and her friends"--sounds almost as good as "Josie and the Pussycats"--is a fledgling rock band in the works? Count me in, gals!
Hey, the ads are offensive and you're pissed off. That's fine. But let's get the facts straight.
The movie doesn't encourage or condone rape.
The movie doesn't encourage or condone violence towards women.
The movie doesn't encourage or condone Tucker Max's behavior.
The movie's message is that Tucker Max's behavior has negative consequences for him.
I don't really know how I wound up defending Tucker, since he seems like the biggest douche bag in the world, but in the context of the book and film, the adverts give a pretty good indication of what to expect when you watch it.
Do they need an asterix with "* Don't worry, actually the guy who says all this shit ends up learning an important life lesson and becomes a better person as a result of it. #typicalhollywoodending."
Hey, but do you know what, maybe you actually have a point. I mean, I was disgusted when I say this advert in the UK:
http://gingerism.com/2008/12/npower-advertisement-banned-by.html
And when I told people I was offended by it, I was told that I shouldn't take it personally, that it was just a joke, that it was light-hearted etc. etc.
And none of that made me feel any better and I was still REALLY angry about it.
So if I compare how I felt about THAT to how you might feel about THESE ads, suddenly I'm a lot more sympathetic to you.
And suddenly I realise that I'm repeating all the blithe bullshit that people told me.
And while I defend 'I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell' as art, I don't think adverts really deserve to be considered as art.
Maybe my conclusion should be: I don't think these adverts should be banned - but maybe I should quit bitching about your right to be offended and enraged by them.
Champagne reread your first post here so you can remember your train of thought. Do,please, also read Belle's post that started the entire conversation.
"I think we all learned something today."
apparently what set off CB, I gather, is that I asked rhetorically (and parenthetically) "can't we have a ban?" wrt the loathsome ad campaign, therefore provoking the responses that make the Baby Godwin cry.
I also don't think Lili is actually going to find out where the POS lives. Amazingly enough, humorless feminist types also get such difficult concepts as "saying shit one doesn't literally intend to enact."
Yes, yes, free speech First Amendment etc. etc. My jackboots and book-burnin' materials are still in the closet, really. Please note that nowhere here did I or anyone actually take steps toward petitioning the government to come and throw Tucker Max into jail, or make him "disappear," or even literally put a ban on his stupid crap. I do think that "the market" isn't exactly as "free" as some people swear it is;
and one might ponder the forces that go into the fact that some people are able to pay to deface the public square with that garbage while others say writing what -they- think over the poster would be considered "vandals;"
or even, why, say, Tucker Max is a best selling hit and "Hothead Paisan, Homicidal Lesbian Terrorist," for instance, has yet to hit the big screen and likely never will.
"Hothead Paisan, Homicidal Lesbian Terrorist"
I'd buy that DVD.
If it's any consolation, I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell got 26% on rotten tomatoes will most likely bomb.
"Hothead Paisan, Homicidal Lesbian Terrorist"
Maaaaaaan that sounds kind of awesome. Of course, that's coming from someone with a pet space opera involving "The Stellar Dominatrixiat" a dysfunctional and hyper homo-erotic "Great and Powerful Empire of Man" and a mysterious 'alien' force referred to as "The Breeders" so my thoughts on that title may not be the norm. >_>
...maybe I should get a blog one of these days ha ha ha...
You know, when people fling the 'perhaps it's too - subtle - for your
tiny, fragile little mind', it generally works as a large nudge to
let everyone with any sense know that not only is the matter simpler-
than-shit, it eases and soothes like a quenching balm any niggling
doubt that might wander through a passing reader's head that possibly,
in the ninth circle of hell in the far reaches of a distant galaxy of
any of said whiners having the absolute remotest chance of being even
a tiny, itsy little bit - right -. When you're right you don't need to
accuse whatever-it-is of being too - subtle - to grasp, s'just a cover-
your-ass exclamation so they don't have to confront why they're
wrong.
Thank the gods they said it, really, serves as a nice wake up call to
anyone who might be even remotely sympathetic to the art = free speech
(no matter who it hurts!) tripe.
Hothead Paisan
I've subsequently been really disappointed by learning of DiMassa's backpedaling/stabbing of trans women. The HH character is still awesome, though, overall.
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Do say more...
Well me being me you probably shouldn't guess as to what I'm capable of (in terms of finding out where that scumbag lives) but yes I see your point.
fair enough...
Aww, Belle, I bet you didn't know you aren really a feminist? I'm glad you had a nice man to explain what feminism is all about & how you aren't one.
Btw, DrugsRBad, I am neither a woman nor a feminist so I guess your entry doesn't apply to me despite being one of Belle's friends. ^_^
O I already got my feminist card revoked often enough I don't think I get replacements anymore. ironically i seem to more often get it revoked the -other- way...
but yes, that is always an extra layer of specialness.
Wow Belle, how in the hells can anyone find that rubbish funny? (oh wait, I remember, bigoted, ratfucking shitstains can)
It's nothing but common bigotry & ratfuckery with the phrase "but it was a joke!!11eleventyone" tacked on.
(btw, I am sooo stealing the term ratfucker. I <3 it; it's insulting without being oppressive, but is still nice & concise."
that was a common WELLism, probably first derived from the Nixon era.
(oh, btw, my last comment was referring to the quotes Belle posted)
Wow, apparently the "piss and shit" on someone else's etc. is literal:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/09/25/MV6519QD09.DTL
Even Max's reel-three apology meant to humanize the cad only reminds us that the character really is a jerk - and he thinks this is awesome! (But the McKee guide dictates lead characters experience major epiphanies, so Max learns it's not OK to defecate in a hotel lobby and expect someone else to clean it up.)
1) Diane DiMassa did WHAT?!
and, 2) HH is, at least, a musical.
That was what the transfail was related to w/DiMassa. They put the musical on at MichFest, and when they interviewed her asking what she made of the Michfest "born women" policy, she cosigned; and when people accused her of betrayal/etc wrt the Daphne character she got shirty, claiming she'd never said specified what the deal was with Daphne for a reason, and a few transmisogynistic things. I suspect, you know, she wanted the show put on at what's basically Broadway/Nashville/Woodstock for lesbian feminists & that was that, but, well. People were disappointed to say the least.
Someone ought to make a reality show with Tucker Max and the AROOO crowd on a tropical island...
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復活、スタービーチ！日本最大の友達探しサイトがついに復活、進化を遂げた新生スタビをやってみませんか？理想のパートナー探しの手助け、合コンパーティー等も随時開催しています。楽しかった頃のスタビを体験しよう
なかなか彼氏、彼女が出来ない君達の深層心理を徹底解明♪みんなでモテる度チェックをやって結果交換も自由、合コンや休み時間はモテる度チェックで暇つぶし！次にモテ期が訪れる瞬間をズバリ診断しちゃいます
出会ぃも今は¥倶楽部！オンナがオトコを買う時代になりました。当サイトでは逆援希望の女性が男性を自由に選べるシステムを採用しています。経済的に成功を収めた女性ほど金銭面は豊かですが愛に飢えているのです。いますぐTOPページからどうぞ
今迄は野外露出がマイナスイメージと囚われがちですが、実際は開放的な気分になり有名人のヌーディストが、オープンになる事を推奨してるぐらいです。このサイトをキッカケに知り合った娘達と野外で楽しみませんか
どうしても相手がセレブだと高級感が有り、近付きにくいと思われがちですが、実際はただ欲望のままに快楽を追い求める、セレブとは掛け離れた女性が居るだけです。今こそ自分の欲望を満たすときです
最近旦那とマンネリで全然Hしてません。正直もうかなり欲求不満です…誰か相手してくれる方いませんか？空いている時間は多いと思うので都合は合わせやすいと思います。お互い楽しめる関係になりたいな。人妻でも平気な人いたら是非相手してください☆一応18歳以上の人限定でお願いします。上はどこまででも大丈夫なんで excellent.lady@docomo.ne.jp
当サイトでは無料でオナ動画を見ることができます。また、ライブチャット機能でリアルタイムオ○ニーを見るチャンスも高く、興奮間違いなしです。また、一人Hのお手伝いを希望される女性もあり、お手伝いいただけた方には謝礼をお支払いしております
日本最大、だれもが知っている出会い系スタービーチがついに復活、進化を遂げた新生スタビをやってみませんか？趣味の合う理想のパートナー探しの手助け、合コンパーティー等も随時開催しています。楽しかった頃のスタビで遊んでみよう
あなたの異性からのモテ度数を診断できる、モテる度チェッカー！日頃モテモテで充実しているあなたもそうでないニートの方も隠されたモテスキルを測定して結果を活用し、今以上にモッテモテになること間違いなし
女性のオナニーを助ける場が救援部です。ここに所属してる娘のオナニーを見て気に入ったら、実際に会ってオナニーを手伝っても良いし、エッチしても良し、これで報酬Ｇｅｔ出来るんですから美味しいバイトですよ
一時代を築いたスタービーチは閉鎖になりましたが、もう一度楽しい思いをしたい、もう一度出会いたいと思う有志により再度復活しました。本家以上に簡単に出会えて楽しい思いを約束します
昨日友達とセフレを作るのが難しいな～、出会い系サイトの規制が厳しいはとか話してて、アダルトSNSのサイトが今のところは狙い目やって聞いたから使ってみたけど、近場で楽にセフレを作れてホンマ手軽やはｗｗｗ
誰にも言えない秘密があります。実はとってもＨなんです、せっかく女として生まれたからにはアブノーマルな世界に飛び込んでみたいです☆普段では考えられないプレイを思う存分楽しみ、経験したいんです♪快楽に溺れさせてくれませんか？一緒に感じ合いましょう！！都合はつくのですぐに時間を合わせられます。18歳よりも上の方がいいです！！ quietness@docomo.ne.jp
流出サイトでは、有名人から素人までの他では見れない秘蔵の動画を入手しています。何より素人が相手の場合に限り、アポを採る事も可能です。動画でお手軽に抜いて、抜き足らない場合は、女の子にハメて来て下さい
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女性には風俗がない！そんな悩みを持つセレブ女たちは、リッチセックスでお金を使い自分を満たします。金銭面では豊かですが、愛に飢えている彼女たちを癒して高額な報酬を手に入れてみませんか
女子○生の個人情報公開！？遊び盛りの神待ち女子○生の写メ・アドレス・番号を公開中！好みの女の子を選んで直メ・直電で今すぐ待ち合わせしよう
高級チェリーの冬は童貞卒業のシーズンです。童貞を食べたい女性達もウズウズしながら貴方との出会いを待っています。そんな女性達に童貞を捧げ、貴方もハッピーライフを送ってみませんか
初書き込みで申し訳ないんですが、都合のいい男性探しています。不況の中でも会社が高成長してて、忙しい毎日です。お陰でプライベートが充実していなくって、溜まる一方です。財産的にも多少余裕が今のところあるのでお礼もできます。何より、この書き込みが読まれているのかちょっと怪しいですけど…。アドレス置いとくので、消されないうちにメールくれたら嬉しいです。inspiration.you@docomo.ne.jp
結婚してから女としての喜びを失った玉の輿女性達、エリート旦那のそつのない動きには満足できるはずもなく、時間を持て余すお昼時に旦那のお金を使い、出張ホストサービスを楽しむそうでございます。今回も10万円での愛を承っております。癒しの一時をご一緒して謝礼を貰ってくださいませ
だれもが知っている日本で一番有名な出会い系スタービーチがついに復活、greeより面白い新生スタビをやってみませんか？理想のパートナー探し、合コンパーティーに興味がある方はぜひ無料登録してみてください
当サイトは、みんなが玉の輿に乗れるかどうか診断できる性格診断のサイトです。ホントのあなたをズバリ分析しちゃいます！玉の輿度チェッカーの診断結果には、期待以上の意外な結果があるかも
男性との甘い一時が奥様達には必要になっております。刺激のない私生活はとても辛く、ココロもカラダもストレスが堪る一方、そんな中にデリバリーホストに癒しを求めている奥様、セレブ女性は大変増えてきており、男性の方が不足状態です。女性達の癒しとなる仕事をあなた様も一度体験してみてはいかがでしょうか
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一人暮らし寂しいよ～（泣）誰かお家遊びにきてくれないかなぁ？休みの日とかも全然予定ありません。料理作るの得意だから来てくれたら食べてほしいな♪見た目は悪くないと思うから安心してください！(笑)細かい事は気にしないけど18歳未満の人は微妙かな、気軽に仲良くしてください milky-yukinko@docomo.ne.jp
冬に1人でネカフェとか寂しすぎやし、でも自分から積極的に声を掛けれる娘ばかりと違い、内気な娘は神待ちと言われるように自分の事を助けてくれるのを待ってるんです。貴方の優しさを待ってる娘は意外な程多いよ
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簡単な設問に答えるだけで貴方にふさわしい名言がわかる、名言チェッカー！あなたの本当の性格を見抜いちゃいます。世界の偉人達が残した名言にはどことなく重みがあるものです
１人Ｈを男性に見てもらうことで興奮する女性が多数いることをご存じですか？当サイトにはそんな女性たちが多数登録されています。男性は彼女たちの１人Ｈを見てあげるだけで謝礼を貰えるシステムとなっております
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当逆円倶楽部ではリッチなセレブと割り切りでお付き合いしてくださる男性を募集しています。女性の性欲を満たし、高額報酬をもらって楽しく暮らしてみませんか？興味がある方はアルバイト感覚での１日登録もできる、安心の無料入会を今すぐどうぞ。
人妻だけどセフレ募集しちゃいます!こんな女嫌かなぁ？新しい刺激欲しいし旦那以外の男性としてみたいな。エッチのテクはそれなりに自信あるよ、フェラとか上手いってよく褒められます。年上は何歳まででもＯＫだけど年下は18歳までが限界かな、楽しみたい人いたら気軽によろしくね♪ enjoy-smile.of.happiness@docomo.ne.jp
家出中の少女たちの書込が神待ち掲示板に増えています。ご飯を食べさせてあげたり、家に招いて泊まらせてあげるだけで、彼女たちはあなたに精一杯のお礼をしてくれるはずです
セフレ専門出会い喫茶エンジョイラブは店舗型出会い喫茶 ENJOYグループのネット1号店としてオープンしました♪セフレ探しを目的とした出会いの専門店です。Hに満足していない女性達が多数登録。今すぐ即アポOK表示のHな女の子を新着順で紹介中です
熟女だって性欲がある、貴方がもし人妻とSEXしてお金を稼ぎたいのなら、一度当サイトをご利用ください。当サイトには全国各地からお金持ちのセレブたちが集まっています。女性から男性への報酬は、 最低15万円からと決めております。興味のある方は一度当サイト案内をご覧ください
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さびしがりやの素人女性や天然娘にメールやチャットで会話してあげるだけで儲かる新感覚のアルバイト「素人ホスト」！未経験者の方でも簡単、手軽に出来るお仕事です。詳細は当サイトでご確認ください
初めての書き込みでちょっぴり緊張してます、男の人と出会うきっかけがなくて！こう言う場をかりてみるのもひとつのきっかけですよね。周りの友達は彼氏とラブラブの毎日、あたしもラブラブな毎日を過ごしたい、21歳の恥ずかしがり屋なんで、年上で引っ張ってくれる人がいいです。メールしてくれたら返事は確実だよ♪ワクワクしながらメール待ってます love.love.happy-@docomo.ne.jp
復活、スタービーチ！日本最大のであい系がついに復活、進化を遂げた新生スタビをやってみませんか？理想のパートナー探しの手助け、合コンパーティー等も随時開催しています。楽しかった頃のスタビを体験しよう
家出・神待ちサイト神風は家出少女が集まる人気サイトをクチコミから集めた家出サイト専用のリンク集です。風のように現れる神となってあなたも家出少女を救ってあげて下さい
ランク王国でもご紹介された右脳左脳チェッカー、天才肌を見分ける楽しい盛り上がりツールとして今、支持をうけております。みんなでやれば盛り上がる事は間違いなし診断結果でも全国ランキングなどにランクインされて面白さ倍増！話のネタに一度はどうぞ
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ゅめの*。ぉ部屋☆+.プロフ作りました♪彼氏募集中ｗバレンタイン前なのに→アソンでくれるヒトいなくて(泣)寂しいデス↓メアドを乗せておくので遊んでもイイヨ～ってヒト、メルちょうだいネ☆
飲み友探してまーす☆気軽に楽しく一緒に飲みに行きませんか？（*^_^*）そんなに強くはないけどね(*μ_μ) イイお店とか知ってたら案内してほしいです★時間は夜遅くでも空いてますよヽ(^o^)丿飲み友探しなんで二十歳以上の人限定ー(*・人・*) 年は23歳だよ！メールよろしくでーす！ red-rose.ray@docomo.ne.jp
新しくなったスタービーチは新しいであいのカタチを提案します★ あなたに出逢いたい人がここにいます。
神待ちサイト ガールズBBSは家出少女を救う神待ち専用の掲示板です！登録無料で家出少女と出会えるチャンス
人生の勝者＆敗者を容赦なく測定できてしまう勝ち組負け組チェッカー！資本主義の日本で貴方は果たして勝ち組になれているのか？あるいは…気になった人はぜひチャレンジしてみてください
高額アルバイトでは大人の恋愛を求めた風俗嬢や社長令嬢といった女性達が多数登録されております。裏風俗とまで呼ばれる逆援助の交際をあなた様も求めてみませんか
伝説で終わらせるにはもったいない。完全無料でさらに面白くなったスタービーチの再来！実績と信頼の上に成り立つスタービーチならではのであい!安心してご利用いただけるブランドだからこそ自信を持ってお勧めします
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変な性癖があるのはどう思いますか？私、獣姦とか好きなんです…いきなりこんな話驚きますよね…引きましたか？Σ(゜□゜(゜□゜*)野外とかにも興味があります！変態チックなのもたまにはいいですよ＼(^-^ )こんな私にメールしてくれるとうれしいです。メールから色んな話しましょ(^_^)年上の人がいいです、私は27歳ですよ！それでは、メール待ってますね sasisuseso309@docomo.ne.jp
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皆様お待たせしました！！伝説の出合い系サイト、スタービーチが遂に復活！あの興奮を再び体験できる！思う存分出合いをお楽しみください
精神年齢チェッカーであなたの実際の精神年齢が、簡単な質問でわかっちゃいます。普段は子供っぽいあの人も実は大人の思考の持ち主で子供っぽく振舞ってるだけかも知れませんよ
ゅめのプロフ作りました☆バレンタイン前なのにアソンでくれるヒトいなくて(泣)寂しいデス↓↓遊んでもイイヨ～ってヒト、メルちょうだいネ
今やモバゲーは押しも押されもせぬ人気SNS！当然出会いを求めてる人も多い！そこで男女が出逢えるコミュニティーが誕生！ここなら友達、恋人が簡単にできちゃいますよ
今や女の子のひとりHは常識。しかもお金を払って実際にひとりHを見てもらい、恥ずかしがるのや褒められるのが興奮のツボ！そんな彼女達とオナメールやオナ○ー救援部でHなことしてみませんか
今まで趣味とか仕事に夢中になってて気付いたら一人ぼっちで彼氏いなーい(＿´Д｀)恋愛からしばらく離れてたから…時々さびしくなっちゃったりするんだよね( p_q)同じくさびしーって人いる？けっこう甘えたりするところがあるから大人の人が好きだよ☆だから、年下はゴメンネ(。-人-。) メアドつけておくから気に入ってくれたらメールしてね！待ってまーす hahahanoha88@docomo.ne.jp
今、お部屋コンパがアツイ！！毎日あなたのお部屋がコンパ会場に！インターネットで即参加！招待状がなくてもスグに使えるSNSコミュニティ☆
今度のスタービーチはここがスゴイ！モバイルだけじゃなくPCでも簡単に相手を探せる！新しいスタービーチは出会いの確率がグンとUP☆
あなたの生きてきた人生の値段を診断できちゃう、人生の値段チェッカー！ここであなたが今までに生きてきた時間に値段をつけちゃおう！コンパにネタに大盛り上がり確定のツールで盛り上がろう
お金持ち人妻や熟女達は素人ホストに抱いてもらう喜びを忘れられず、性欲を満たしています。お金に困った素人男性達は当サイトで人妻さん達を抱いて高額報酬をいただいてください
グリーもそこそこ出逢えますが、であいを求めるならやっぱりスタービーチが一番！登録無料で楽しい時間を過ごしたい方にはもってこいのサイト。これで恋人、セクフレを作るチャンスが大幅アップ
これから家出したい人や現在家出している人達と、家出少女を救いたい人を繋げるSOS掲示板です
仕事や趣味に夢中になってたらいつの間にか独りきりになってた…彼氏も長いこといなくて恋愛から離れてました( ´_ゝ`)そろそろ恋愛にも夢中になりたいけど男の子とどうせっしたらいいか教えて下さい(-^▽^-) 動物好きだから、年上で動物好きな人仲良くしてね(。・ｗ・。 ) ペット連れて散歩なんていいよね！！まずはのんびりメールからお願いします sweet-rose.perfume@docomo.ne.jp
今やモバゲーは押しも押されもせぬ人気SNS！当然であいを求めてる人も多い！そこで男女が出逢えるコミュニティーが誕生！ここなら友達、恋人が簡単にできちゃいますよ
greeやモバゲー、mixiよりアツイ！！スタービーチが新しくなって登場！！復活したスタービーチで新しいでぁいを見つけよう
セクフレ掲示板、¥倶楽部で大人の恋愛をしてみませんか？割り切ったセクフレと快楽のみを求めた恋愛をしてくださいませ
モバゲーやミクシィ、グリーでであえなかった人もNEWスタービーチなら確実にであいをゲット！無料年齢認証登録であの感動が今、再び蘇る
最も復活してほしかったサイトでダントツのNO.1であるスタービーチがとうとう復活！！以前にもましてご利用者様に満足していただける最高のシステムになっております。思う存分新しくなったスタービーチをお楽しみください
最低10万円から交際がスタートする援助スポット。不満を持つ熟女達が若い男性を求めて集まっております。熟女サークル逆¥交際であなたもリッチな生活を送ってみませんか
初めましていずみって言います☆１年半以上恋してません…(/∇≦＼)元彼と付き合ってた時にあんまり会えなくて恋愛してた感じがなかった(;‾ ‾)それから臆病になってたけど長いこと彼がいないからそろそろホンキで恋したいなーなんて思ってますo(^-^o)けっこう天然入ってるから大人で引っ張ってくれる人で年上の人と仲良くしたいです☆気になった人はメールしてね fly.me.so.high-@docomo.ne.jp
満を持してのスタビ復活劇！！ここから刻まれる、新たな一コマ。スタービーチがあなたの歴史を生み出します
大人気コミュニティーサイトとなったモバゲー！であいを求める人も当然多い！！そこでであい専門のコミュニティーサイトmコミュを発信！ここでカレシ彼女をGETしよう♪
なかなか彼氏、彼女が出来ない君達の深層心理を徹底解明♪みんなでモテる度チェッカーをやって結果交換も自由、ゴウコンや休み時間はモテる度チェックで暇つぶし！次にモテ期が訪れる瞬間をズバリ診断、チャンスを逃すな
今話題の恋人契約！！お金をもらってセクースできる！！RICHではセレブに援助してもらい至福のセクースライフを楽しめます。ヤりたい願望は女性だって同じ…そんな切実な思いに気づいてあげてくれませんか
今や女の子のオナニーは常識。しかもお金を払って実際にオナニーを見てもらい、恥ずかしがるのや褒められるのが興奮のツボ！そんな彼女達とオナメールやオナニー救援でHなことしてみませんか
つい最近独り暮らし始めましたヾ(〃^∇^)ノお家で料理作っても食べてくれる人がいない(´−｀)彼氏いないからあたしと過ごしてくれる人いませんか？手料理ごちそうするよぉ！よかったらメールして下さい(o~ー~)年下の人はゴメンネ…(*_ _)人メール待ってます♪september9-love9@docomo.ne.jp
PC対応！掲示板コミュニティサイトmコミュでであいを満喫しませんか？素敵なであいをあなたにお届けいたします
復活、スタービーチ！日本最大の友達探しサイトがついに復活、進化を遂げた新生スタビをやってみませんか？理想のパートナー探しの手助け、合コンパーティー等も随時開催しています。楽しかった頃のスタビを体験しよう
SM度かんたん診断、真面目なあの娘も夜はドS女王様、ツンデレなあの娘も実はイジめて欲しい願望があるかも！気になる娘の本性をSM度チェッカーで暴きだせ
ギャルは素人ホストに抱いてもらう喜びを忘れられず、性欲を満たしています。お金に困った素人男性達は当サイトでギャル達を抱いて高額報酬をいただいてください
モバゲーで合コンや婚活パーティーを開催中！イベント盛りだくさんのモバゲーを初めてみませんか
男性が主役です！ 女性会員様からの謝礼は貴方次第、ご近所出張ホストは女性向けフ一ゾクの決定版！エロい一時を求めて男性様との触れ合いを秘密厳守で探しておられます。エロマダム様達と過ごす癒しの一時を…エロい人妻様会員様を満足させてあげれるのはあなただけなのです
毎日楽しい生活してても何かが足りないって思った時何が足りないか分かったの…Ｏ(≧▽≦)Ｏ それは恋愛だったんだ～って（苦笑）σ(^_^;)唯一、私にはなかったもの…彼氏がほし～い(＞▽＜;; フリーの人いませんか？私を恋人にして下さい♪♪仲良くなってどこかへ遊びに行きませんか？(≧▽≦;)明るい性格なので、一緒にいて楽しいと思います！！年下の人は苦手で仲良くなる自信がないので私より年上の人でお願いしますヽ(*´ー｀)ゞ少しでも気になった人は今すぐにメール下さい♪ beat-angel.risa@docomo.ne.jp
突如として消えたスタービーチが電撃復帰！長い年月をかけて蘇った進化したスタービーチをお楽しみください
であえる確立NO.1を誇るスタービーチが帰ってきた！であいの要素がいっぱいつまった当サイトでであいのきっかけ掴みましょ
SM度チェッカーで隠された性癖をチェック！外見では分からない男女のSM指数をチェックして、合コンや飲み会で一気に気になる人との仲を縮めよう
アダルトSNSは今話題沸騰中!!女の子達のエッチ告白、日々のマル秘映像や写真は要チェック!!!今すぐ無料参加してアダルトSNSを始めよう
モバゲーより確実に遊べるサイト誕生！スタービーチで理想の関係を築いていきませんか
全国からメル友募集中の女の子達が、あなたの誘いを待ってるよ！無料エントリーで自由な恋愛を楽しんじゃお
彼氏いない歴２年半になろうとしてます、なかなか相性の合う人と出会えず、好意をよせてくれる人もいたけどダメだった。 一緒にいて楽しくて落ち着く人と、仲良くなって恋愛したい！！甘えさせてくれる人がいいから、年下の人は私には向いてません。よろしくね！ruri11.ko9@docomo.ne.jp
今やモバゲーは人気SNS！当然出会いを求めてる人も多い！そこで男女が出逢えるコミュニティーが誕生！ここなら友達、恋人が簡単にできちゃいますよ
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