Friday, August 01, 2008

"An open letter to cis feminists:" a guest post by Queen Emily.

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Reposting in full with her permission, as originally posted at Sexual Ambiguities [with some more added hyperlinks]. Also see x-post at Questioning Transphobia with Lisa's commentary.


An open letter to cis feminists

Stop fucking up.*

I have complained numerous times that the feminist blogosphere, such as it is, has one main conversation about trans people, one that is returned to again and again and again - the political implications of our transitioning. Click here** if you want yet another example of pointless bloody "analysis."

I don't CARE about whatever horrible thing some feminist has said anymore. I care that these discussions centre on cis concerns, even (maybe especially) allies respond mostly to the slurs, but rarely address the real issues.

Now, if you want to have those conversations, here's an idea. Subject yourself to the same kind of analysis. Honestly interrogate if and how you might have more or less privilege than trans people. And no, for the millionth time, trans women are not the fucking Patriarchy.

Or how bout this for an idea. Spend some actual time and energy on trans issues. Here is one thing you are barely talking about - the continual violence against transgendered people for being transgendered.

Blog about Angie Zapata. Blog about Ebony Whitaker. Blog about Sanesha Stewart (to name just three trans women murdered this year).

Try subjecting all that torturous analysis to something actually useful - how violence against trans people occurs. Try thinking about the fact that it is overwhelming trans women of colour being murdered. Try thinking about the intersections between race, transness, misogyny and sex work.

Try writing about the way that institutions collude with this violence - that medical professionals may willingly leave you to die, that police may not prosecute, that lawyers use "trans panic" as a defence to justify the death, and then to add insult to injury, the media effectively blames the dead person for their own deaths AND misgenders them.

And for fuck's sake, don't blame the fucking victims.

I DARE YOU.

* if this doesn't apply to you, then it doesn't apply to you.

posted by queen emily



**belledame again. Yeah, it WOULD be better to focus on other things beside what the latest drooling imbecile online said, wouldn't it. Unfortunately, they kind of tend to draw one's attention. Me, I clicked over there when making the hyperlink, got as far as the "no special rights" crap and saw red.

As it happens, I had been planning to write a "dear straight feminists" post myself for a while now. I have no idea what mAndrea's personal deal is and don't much care; but I've seen, like, maybe a handful (ew) of actual lesbian (cis) "feminist" women be able to read, even WRITE this kind of crap and somehow NOT immediately go,

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE FUCKING SHITTING ME THIS IS HOMOPHOBIA ONE OH FUCKING ONE HELLLLOOOOOOOO

I do not know what their damage is. I will never understand what the fucking disconnect is. One is now over there in the comments quoting Oscar Fucking Wilde. I can't deal with the stupid today, I really can't.

"People: the other white meat"

--Renegade


Mostly, though? The people who actually spout or endorse this kind of bullshit, as opposed to just sort of blipping it over because oo well not my table really? Even the ones who AREN'T total fucking wastes of space like this one? Straight women. (And some straight men, of course, which is, if possible, even more special-er, always). Burbling about: how they want to -do away with gender- (please); how political lesbianism, or whatever the catchphrase for "just avoid men and make sappy noises about how WONDERFUL women are without ever having to have icky sex with them" is these days, is something they humbly aspire to, meanwhile just having to make do with their very own Nigel whilst pointing righteous fingers at everyone else in the entire world; and how TERRIBLE "queer politics" are, this or that kind of sexual act or desire that guess what! is mostly going to affect people OTHER than their crunchy abstinent selves, the ones who are ALREADY being spat at and being called "perverts" and "degenerates" and their internal reality isn't legitimate anyway, much less acting out sexual desires...

Sorry. Got carried away. Where was I?

Anyway. But you know, besides that, yeah, there is another post somewhere here, about the curious place that gay (cis) people/issues and particularly lesbians have in mainstream (het) feminism. Certainly you don't catch this kind of bottom-feeder button-pushing bigotry, -within- feminism as such, just for being queer, usually. And, hell, well, lesbians, at least for some people, there's that dubious pedestal again...well, this is, I suspect, another post.

But yeah. There's really other shit to talk about, here, was the point, other -issues- that aren't all about centering straight women and their needs as well as (even more so, Emily is right) cis women and -our- needs; and I need to get on more of it myself.

I'll be coming back to this.

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PhysioProf said...

One thing that I have tried hard to understand, and have not really succeeded at, probably because my own privilege makes it impossible: I have heard some ciswomen saying that it hurts them by interfering with their own efforts to deal with patriarchy that transwomen "claim" the same status of "woman" that ciswomen have "forced" upon them.

I have to admit, that this argument kind of resonates with me. In fact, I have said so publicly a few times in the past, although I have since realized that this is not a topic I should really be opining on at all.

Is there something pernicious about this that I am missing?

(And I would be comfortable with being told to shut the fuck up and mind my own business, if that makes the most sense.)

belledame222 said...

What are you asking? Why certain cis women are "hurt" by trans women claiming equal status as them? -shrug- I figure I'll understand it about when someone also can answer the question about how it is exactly that gay marriage threatens the institution of "family values," etc. etc.

Beyond that, got me. Some people aren't good with the whole "sharing" thing; someone missed that day in nursery school, I guess.

belledame222 said...

basically though I think it really has to do with something like, besides kneejerk leftover transphobia from the general culture of course:

1) Men Oppress Women

2) I am a Woman

3) I am of the Oppressed Class.

4) Life is simple. Grim, but simple.

5) ...but, here is a Man who -wants- to be a Woman; this fucks with my idea that there is anything desirable about being a Woman in this our Patriarchal Patrix;

6) which means I might have to rethink my whole everything again, and that gives me a headache.

7) also, well...they're MEN. they MUST be Men; if it were THAT easy to cross over, um, uhhhhhh...dammit! You don't get off the hook that easily! And you certainly don't get to come into MY SAFE SPACE, you MAN, you.

8) We are STRONG! We are POWERFUL! WE are WYMYN! WE can make BABIES and YOU CAN'T neener neener uhhh not that that means we're essentialist because essentialism is bad mkay mumblesomething about socialization. anyway, you CAN'T COME IN, you jealous jealousertons!

9) lalalalalalala not listening to a word you say about yourselves, trans people and especially trans men, lalalalalala

10) NO! Women are the most miserable and beaten down and oppressed people in the -world,- and if you boyo upstarts think you're going to take that away from us, you're crazy!

***

After that I kind of tend to get lost.

GallingGalla said...

Is there something pernicious about this that I am missing?

Very simply. We don't "claim" some grand "woman-status". We are women, full stop (as indicated by the proper spelling of the term "trans woman" as two words - we are not some kind of third gender). The allegation that we put on womanhood like we put on clothes, is what is pernicious.

No need to stfu, but if the "claim" argument resonates with you, I think you've got some more reading and thinking to do. You could start with Julia Serano's "Whipping Girl".

Lisa Harney said...

I'd like to know how it hurts some cis women. Is it problematic that some people like being women? There's cis women and trans women alike who like being women, so why are trans women singled out for liking womanhood too much? Hell, why are trans men singled out for supposedly fleeing womanhood if the state of being a woman is oppressive and harmful at all times? The argument doesn't stand.

But you know what? I don't think it matters. Cis women might be inconvenienced by the idea of people who want to be women, but those of us who want to be women have trouble getting housing, getting employment, we're actively harmed by anti-trans prejudice. We're brutally murdered.

The problem with this whole feminist debate is that it continually centers the question of transness on cis women, and that's like centering every discussion about race on whiteness, every discussion about gender on men, every discussion about sexual orientation on heterosexuals (or if the topic is bisexuality, on monosexuals).

Asking "but what about the cis women?" is not unlike asking "but what about the menz?"

belledame222 said...

-nod nod nod nod nod- to everything Lisa said.

it is selfish. "I don't want to inconvenience my beautiful mind to reassess my worldview, especially the narrative of whatever kind of feminism this is that draws a clear and bright line between Persecuted Us and Wicked Them; I'm going to put it all back on you. I don't care how much harder it makes life for you; it's not MY fault. Hey, I'M not the one who actually murdered you or even denied you your rights (oh well except in the cases where I did try to promote the gutted ENDA bill and suchlike, Hi Blanche!), and it WOUNDS me that you would call me "transphobic..."

retch. Just: retch.

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Lisa Harney said...

By "inconvenienced," btw, I meant that the existence and reality of trans people should be enough cause to rethink the theory that says we can't exist.

Quite a few radfems have told me directly that they find trans people inconvenient to their theory...and thus conclude that trans people are liars because their theory can't possibly be wrong.

I do not believe the existence of trans women harms cis women in any measurable way. None of the arguments I've heard have been convincing, since they've all been predicated on the idea that I'm a horrible person and a freak.

belledame222 said...

Yeah, like I said, to me it's the exact equivalent of homophobes going out of their way to deny not only gay marriage but protection rights for job and housing discrimination, even watered-down domestic partner bills, -even- such you would think no brainers as adding to already existing hate crimes laws, protection in -schools-, etc. Why? None of the answers are pretty.

Sarah J said...

I'm banning the word "patriarchy" from my blog and embracing "kyriarchy."

I dealt with queer oppression long before I ever felt oppressed as a woman. Got called a dyke in school because of who my friends were, joined the GSA, etc. etc.

So I mean...a feminism that not only doesn't center but doesn't even acknowledge these things just blows my little mind. I don't know what to make of it. I don't understand how a bunch of cis straight middle-class Western white women can think they're the most oppressed people in the bloody world.

and to me, it seems completely bloody obvious that if gender is NOT tied to biology, then the whole essentialist argument for men being in charge is proven false, and so I REALLY don't fucking get how feminists who claim to want to destroy the gender binary can be anything but absolutely thrilled with the existence of trans people, in either direction.

that might be a little too much for people right now, but I'm tired and have work to do, so I said it.

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