Tuesday, December 04, 2007

-This- is what a feminist looks like? Not in my universe.

But then I don't live in Bizarro World, and it's -not- a fun place to visit.

But, okay, for the record: (hey, she wanted me to take fresher material than the "You're that professional virgin who got your vagina embalmed" crack; happy to obleege, energy creature)

"RE will be back, prancing like she's at her job. I mean, she's used
to men tucking dollar bills in her G-string, maybe she expects that
from everybody these days?"


and

They accuse radfems of calling them sluts and whores when they're the
ones adopting the double standard to their advantage and profit. If
you dare point out they make money sucking off men, they leap to that
particular accusation."


"Why shouldn't we call you sluts and whores when that's what you ARE? WELL??"

Right-o: you didn't -say- it. First. Of course. "Tit-jobbers," excuse me. "Fuckbot." "Hot, bi-sexee, will suck and fuck anything for money." Not that that's ever a real person; just an image which some tit-jobbers who prance around in g-strings and suck off men for money make themselves LOOK like.

much much more here, if you like that sort of thing.

on edit: the saga continues, apparently. more Issues than National Geographic, by Maud. from someone called "captain vanille":

God DAMN are you a slimy, smarmy, manipulative little shit. You come in here all flowers and puppies, completely ignoring the fact that you are, behind your fuck-me red lips and pert tits, the epitome of what they mean by the word "viper" - not a snake, oh no, but a poisonous, smirking, betraying, Patriarchal collaborator.


Now I must rinse.

oh yeah: Energy Creature? Since you're owed, now, apparently: I'm sorry. Sorry you're such an incurable flaming tinfoil-wearing misogynist ASSHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLEEEEE...

40 comments:

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belledame222 said...

um, you're quite welcome...

dude. Portuguese spam.

antiprincess said...

couldn't have said it better myself...whatever it was..

andi said...

Don't people have better things to do than put someone else down because they make different choices in life.
Ren's a neat lady. I enjoy reading her thoughts, getting her perspective. I ain't got the guts to ask her the things that I want to -BUT all in good time I guess. Reading Ren's words makes me want to be more out in the world, Reading Ginmar's makes me want to hide under a rock again...tell me please which one is doing more for feminism?

Oh right, I don't have to ask you - you already know. :)

Renegade Evolution said...

andi... you can ask, I don't bite, unless, well, its consentual and all.

Námo Mandos said...

I think that this thread is WAY more fun:

http://womensspace.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/afghan-warlords-and-male-sexual-slavery-boys-as-girls/

Starting with "m Andrea"'s "proof" and going on from there.

Mat said...

Oh God, I'd finally managed to repress the memories of her on the wank comms and there it is again. At least she's not popping up on F_W proper anymore, really.

And if anyone's interested in following from the fw Wiki, for some reason unknown to God or man, Journalfen's latest server upgrade killed the memories on pretty much everything. I have no idea why, but that means that last link on her entry now points to a pretty page that is totally useless.

Just. For the record.

belledame222 said...

oh yeah, I have been gaping at some of that; thing is, well, I wouldn't call either -fun- (they're Not The Fun Kind!) just, y'know, what with the actually insulting me and my friends by name, and all. not that i didn't expect it, but, you can see why i might be momentarily distracted.

anyway nothing will ever top the Clear Eyed Serious Gaze for me, so really it's been kind of downhill from there. frownie.

belledame222 said...

mat: are you talking about the "other highlights" or whatever it is page? because I figured out that actually I think someone just mistyped the links. if, once you get the error message, you remove the second slash in the latter part? it goes to the right page.

and yeah: good times. hoo-ee.

i'm sure it's all a coincidence, though, you know: they're all SparklePony Rapist Patriarchal Something or Others, Too.

hey, 3500 wankas can't -all- be wrong...

belledame222 said...

At least she's not popping up on F_W proper anymore, really.

o you know, that's cos she's CHANGED, dramatically, since the last...um, well?...

yeah, maybe the dial doesn't quite go to eleven anymore, and good for her for getting help if that's what happened. but um. like, just now, wtf was -that-? and then that other time...and the time before that...and...

it's like: dude, yeah, serious real shit to process, I get that; but that of itself isn't the problem; it's not like she has these triggered explosions and then the rest of the time she's this reasonable and totally not-rigid person, you know...I mean, even when she's her "normal" self she's, well? Kind of a big ol' asshole. With a heaping fuckton of, yep, -unexamined- shit, I'd say; the kind that isn't so much about what she wears or how she fucks but what comes leaping out of her mouth or I suppose fingers. Oopsie. It's an issue.

she's let's say not the most self-aware person in the universe. great projection system, though: you could host Cannes -and- the Sundance Fest from there I think, really.

belledame222 said...

btw mandos, what's with the name change? namo mandos. i can't do the accent thingie in the comments, can I? oh wait i cán. huh.

Mat said...

BD: yeah, that's it. It's a pretty generalised thing around JF these days, though, that whole 'broken links in memories' thing.

And I...I dunno. I feel for her on the bit where she's got major shit to process and everything, and she actually does seem to have calmed down since I first ran into her (or she's stopped being wanked, at least) but she was responsible for me discovering that it is possible to reach a point where someone has annoyed you enough that they literally make you break into psychosomatic hives, and that takes some form of. Talent. I think that's the right word.

belledame222 said...

heh, yeah. Something.

well, what -hasn't- changed is, she must Never Be Wrong, Ever. like, even about, o say, whether or not Renegade deliberately and maliciously didn't approve some of her comments to a feministe thread right away, or whether it was, INdeed, the ev0l patriarchal Askimet.

as for that two year old fight she's so hopped up about my bringing up all the time that SHE brought it up herself twice at Pandagon just now (JEHOVAH! JEHOVAH JEHOVAH!) well...apparently all that she's really concerned about is, she wouldn't act exactly the same way, now, something. She's still not -sorry- or anything; after all those women were (she says just now) a couple of "Ann Coulters." Well, I've been reading both of them, and...not even close. Ginmar's a lot closer to an Ann Coulter, even though nominally they're conservative (Coulter is no such thing in any case).

And I mean, there's still something...yeah, it probably doesn't bear analysis. Suffice it to say that I -believe-, although I have no way of knowing of course, that whatever it is about her that is so very asscramp-inducing predates her military service, at least. This impression has been at least somewhat confirmed by people who've interacted with her then.

and I mean, it's like...it's not like she y'know -wants- yer empathy or anyone else's. You soften toward her a bit and she just bites harder, all the while wailing that no one knows the trouble she's seen...well, after about the third or fourth round of that, you're like: you know what? You're right. I don't. And, I'm not interested. Sorry. Show some sign of reciprocation toward -anyone-, anyone at all, and I might be interested. otherwise: well. Energy Creature. 'nuff said.

belledame222 said...

the other possibility I suppose is that f_w just isn't paying as much attention to her anymore because

a) they got bored with her
b) increasingly more of her stuff has been in blogsville than in elljay, and they don't seem to monitor that as much.

belledame222 said...

and then, too, I'm feeling a bit less swayed by her crying ableism when she's been calling Renegade "insane" and armchair diagnosing her (along with her fans) thirty ways from Sunday, using shit RE's revealed as well as whatever it is they pull out of their own ass. So, there's that.

Námo Mandos said...

The name change is me using my Google account. Bah to Google, they are becoming evil. The new Microsoft, except you can't open-source them out of existence because their infrastructure can't be replicated at home.

Mandos is only the name of the Doomsman of the Valar because the place that he lives in the Blessed Realm is called Mandos, and in Tolkien's work there's an occasional feudal tendency to name important people after their feudal holdings. Námo is the actual personal name of the Ainu who holds the position of the Doomsman of the Valar. Consequently, Námo Mandos.

You can type in Chinese in these boxes too, you know. Hurrah for Unicode!

Veronica said...

Wow. Someone made "professional virgin" icons, even. Awesome.

belledame222 said...

aren't they?

belledame222 said...

the "Ann Coulter" "professional virgin" (according to ginmar) is/was remarkably funny and gracious and lowkey about the whole thing. She doesn't push her beliefs on anyone else; she was hurt and surprised that ginmar flung that at her (they used to be friends, see). she still doesn't see anything wrong with what she actually -did-, ginmar, "better" as she is. she's just sort of, I gather, embarrassed because it sits ill with the image she and her minions have of herself. hurt other people? who? what? huh?

anyway, she had a funny line in there somewhere; you know, they asked what being a "professional virgin" pays these days anyway; something like,

"I offer my services as curiosity and unicorn lurer as a supplement for my work in the publishing industry. The pay's not great but the perks are terrific"

--something like that, too lazy to look for it right now.

Daisy said...

I want my sex pixie banner for my blog. Who is responsible for the committee? :P

Alon said...

The fandom wiki entries are a riot.

andi said...

Thanks Ren, I know you don't bite...I just am really shy about asking anyone, anything - in RL I am even worse than online - if you can imagine that.

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