Tuesday, July 08, 2008

Fuck you, Kyle Payne.

ETA again: Also, Renegade has a continually updated list of all the other people covering this, here.

So, I'm surfing around, procrastinating, you know how it goes, and I find what appears to me at first to be yet another garden variety (as these things go, there aren't actually THAT many of them I don't think) male radical feminist blog, one Kyle Payne. Since I'm in the mood to snark, I read and roll my eyes a bit: yeah, your classic: all of 22 years old and teddibly teddibly earnest, doesn't seem totally rabid or nothin' but your basic pompous, sanctimonious hetboy dweeb fangirling Andrea Dworkin and other Famous Not The Fun Kind Feminists for whatever reason. Yeah, there are a few of these around, mostly kind of, well, um, creepy and risible in a milquetoast way at best, foamingly horrid at worst. Ime, imnsho, etc.

But this one, thus far, well, I am thinking, trying to be relatively charitable, not really sure why--basically he just seems like this character, albeit with politics I find particularly teeth grinding. Oh, whee, yet more hairshirting and lecturing about the horrible awful pr0nz and such small portions.

More on this in a bit.

But okay, self-examining to the point of actual rectal-cranial inversion AND hara-kiri, squeaky clean, "articulate," nice trimmed fingernails and suchlike, he kind of reminds me of ummm certain more prominent "mainstream" male feminist bloggers whogo shall(koff) be nameless, mostly on account of I'm feeling passive aggressive. But mostly making me roll my eyes -really- hard overall, this one, and okay, shit like this kind of puts me on red alert:

For as long as I can remember, I have been told that I do not get
angry - as an activist, a friend, a lover, and as a colleague. I
assure you now that this perception is simply not true. I experience
anger much the same as anyone else. Events and circumstances pose
threats to me and my view of the world, causing me to want to lash out
and reassert a personal feeling of control. Yet the way I engage this
conflict, and ultimately, resolve it, may be somewhat unfamiliar...

...Despite how horrifying mainstream pornography is, absolutely none of the
information I provided was new or shocking to me. I had spoken about
pornography countless times before, addressing a variety of audiences.
And my research had revealed that the “woman-hating” in pornography
was not merely a fringe issue, relegated to a particular genre or
subgenre. Instead, the entire industry, along with its intimate
connections with prostitution and sex trafficking, is rooted in an
ideology of hatred toward women (and a system that enforces such
hatred). Yet, no matter how familiar I am with patriarchy’s firm grip
on sexualities in our society, I can’t help but break down emotionally
when speaking of such an atrocity.

Stifling sobs and brushing tears from my cheeks again and again as my
presentation went on, I was embarrassed and worried that my audience
had missed important messages in the speech. Perhaps they didn’t even
take me seriously, given my uninvited display of emotion during a
formal presentation. Regardless of reactions from audience members, I
felt strangely fulfilled having expressed myself so openly. For the
first time in my academic career, I felt I had allowed myself to be
human as a presenter. I regret that, at least for some, my tears may
have been distracting or confusing. Yet I see no reason to apologize
for them, given the subject matter.


Right, so, putting aside (for now) the pr0nz business, what I hear him saying, Kyle, (-nod- -nod- -nod-) is that he DOES TOO get angry, just like a non-saintly human being, he's just moved to piteous tears instead of your more masculine way of being...angry. And, he's not sorry. Well, okay then, I...tend to find people of any gender who disown anger as such (no, really, tears of sorrow aren't anger) kind of creepy, but...whatevs, get down with your sensitive self, I guess. And hay, I mean, presumably he's totally fine with the idea of women farting, whether or not he expresses flatulence in a traditionally masculine way himself. In fact--well, no, let's not actually go there.

Just...okay, charitable, schmaritable, fact is, I'm pretty skeeved out, on account of I always think, with guys like this, they really protesteth way the fuck too much. That the flip side of all that earnest--well, NOT chivalry, clearly, whatever you want to call the left-wing equivalent: 'ray the strong feminists, down with Patriarchy, down with masculinity, goes to anti-porn conferences and Sheila Jeffreys speeches for fun, lectures his fellow menz on being less patriarchal, and wears his shame with pride...

That the flip side of all this is, well, something a lot darker and uglier. That I just don't trust someone who goes on and on and ON about how TERRIBLE and ALL PERVASIVE all the misogyny in the world is, specifically the -sexualized- misogyny, of course; and only a handful of feminist celebrities and their adoring male acolytes can put things to right. But this is all very general thus far.

But so anyway, I'm skipping about, and I come across this rather cryptic entry:

I want to be very careful how I share these words with you. Given the
numerous accusations and attacks I have received lately, I am finding
it very easy to respond in ways that are defensive, confrontational,
and antagonistic. While those behaviors might be appropriate if I was
enlisting in a battle for my place in the hierarchy of our dominator
culture, they are neither relevant or productive in this context.
Furthermore, I worry that these actions would be interpreted as yet
another reason not to listen to a word I have to say.

I am upset that there is gradually developing a bizarre and twisted
understanding of who I am and what I am about. And I am angry that
individuals, who I presume are otherwise capable of critical thought,
are jumping to the most outrageous conclusions. I am also deeply
disturbed at the joy others have taken in painting such a disturbing
picture of me....


So, not really knowing what the fuck he's rabbiting about there, never having heard of this particular dude before, but thinking it's probably some potentially marginally amusing Internets wankfest. And I'm really trying for any excuse not to get on with the move and other shit I need to do, so I dust off the ol' binoculars and google his name.

o.O.

A few days ago I stumbled through tag surfer into this blog, ostensibly written by a male feminist named Kyle Payne. I thought his branch of radical feminism was a little extreme for my taste, but nonetheless, I left a comment and got one back. Today, I received the following comment (news story) from a reader (ryan) and thought I’d post it here, rather than in my comments:

Here is your feminist Kyle Payne:

Storm Lake Privacy Invasion


Thursday, 14 February, 2008 12:00 AM

(Storm Lake, IA)–An arrest is made by Storm Lake Police in relation to a ten month long investigation into an assault and invasion of privacy of a Buena Vista University Student.

A search warrant was executed at Pierce Hall room #B10 on April 26th of last year. Authorities seized a computer and a digital camera from 22-year-old Kyle Payne’s room. A search of the Ida Grove man’s car turned up photographs described as personal in nature that also showed the woman may have been assaulted physically without knowing it.

A search of Payne’s Ida Grove home turned up more evidence including another computer. All items were sent to the DCI Crime Lab for forensic analysis.

Through investigation it was found that Payne, on January 3rd of 2007, was serving as RA for Buena Vista University when he attended to an intoxicated 18-year-old female student in her dorm room. He allegedly physically assaulted her while she was unconscious and video taped the act and downloaded the images onto his laptop.

Payne was arrested at his Ida Grove home Wednesday and charged with 2nd degree burglary, a class C felony, invasion of privacy, and assault. He was taken to Buena Vista County Jail and booked on an $11,300 cash bond..


The comments at that link at Eleanor's Trousers (thanks), many purporting, credibly, to be aquaintances of Kyle Payne's, are...illuminating. And, well, it doesn't sound good. Nonetheless, I'm a bit hesitant to blog this on account of the whole "innocent till proven guilty" thing, okay, sure.

Well, as it transpires, as of just one week ago there has been an update:

Iowa Blogger Pleads Guilty to Secretly Photographing Woman's Breasts

An Iowa blogger who claimed to use activism and education to promote “a more just and life-affirming culture of sexuality” for women, especially those women who have been victims of sexual violence, has pleaded guilty to photographing and filming a college student's breasts without her consent.

Kyle D. Payne, 22 of Ida Grove, presented his guilty plea Monday in Iowa District Court for Buena Vista County. He agreed he was guilty of felony attempted burglary in the second degree and two counts of invasion of privacy, a serious misdemeanor.
Lynda Waddington :: Iowa Blogger Pleads Guilty to Secretly Photographing Woman's Breasts

In documents filed with the court, Payne agrees that "with an intent to arouse my sexual desire, I photographed and filmed Jane Doe and her breast without her consent." A portion of the plea agreement stating that Payne was of sound mind when the incident took place in early 2007 was stricken from the document, leaving only the portion where Payne agrees that he is currently of sound mind.

At the time of the incident, Payne had been employed by Buena Vista University as a dormitory resident adviser. Police reports indicate that while attending to an intoxicated and unconscious female student, Payne reportedly assaulted and photographed her. The guilty plea entered Monday did not include assault charges. Tips received by police and campus security following the incident led to a 10-month investigation that resulted in Payne's arrest in February....

Payne, who identified with radical feminists like Andrea Dworkin, attended a training for feminist anti-pornography activists in January at the University of Texas in Austin. An article in the Ida County Courier stated that Payne had "written papers and given several public presentations on feminist critiques of pornography, prostitution, and the 'rape culture,' in addition to serving as an advocate for survivors of sexual violence." According to a resume previously posted on his blog, he has attended many such conferences since 2004.

Payne faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $7,500. As a condition of the plea deal, the state has agreed that no other charges will be filed as a result of this incident. Sentencing has been set for Aug. 11.


Oh, yeah, wrt "other charges:" according to several of the commenters at Eleanor's Trousers, he'd been previously accused of other assaults and/or allegedly having child pornography on his computer, last year.

So, okay, well, I mean, it's not as though we've never heard of, o I don't know, anti-gay legislators who get caught cottaging, televangelists who're winged by sex scandals, all that jazz.

Of course, -sexual assault,- as opposed to just fucking around like the rest of us mortals, ceases to make anything like schadenfreude even remotely amusing.

The best part for me, though, is that throughout this all, the dude is -still blogging- as though nothing had happened. Charges brought in February; guilty plea on July 1. This is an entry from early May:

If we are serious about rape prevention – in other words, not rape
avoidance, defense, or something along those lines – we need to begin
with where rape begins, in men’s decisions to assert dominance over
women through sexuality. Ultimately we are talking about subverting
patriarchy as a system, but of course, it is largely men’s choices
that maintain that system. We are talking about taking rape away from
men, along with their unearned advantages in this society, and of
course, their unjust (as if there were any other kind) dominance over
women...


Tell us about it, Kyle.

And then, this post, as included in the May edition of the Carnival Against Pornography and Prostitution:

Bob Jensen made an important point to the group as our time together drew to a close: “Not everyone gets better.” This is certainly true of survivors of sexual violence, who are far too often met with frustration, even blame, from loved ones who simply cannot understand why they haven’t “put the pieces back together.” And I think it might be a fair statement regarding anyone doing anti-rape or anti-pornography work. It is the most heartbreaking experience for me as an advocate not to be able to tell a survivor that everything will be fine, that with the right amount of support and determination, she will be able to move on with her life, and in some sort of meaningful way, feel okay. The reality is that not everyone gets better, and whether we call it the “rape culture” or “porn culture,” we are living in a society that actively prevents healing from taking place.


Yeah. You might say that, Kyle. You might, at that.

And I...suddenly realize that all the commentary I was going to make from here on out just feels...completely redundant.

Renegade Evolution has more.

ETA:
This really interests me, though, from a commenter at Eleanor’s Trousers:


July 8, 2008 at 11:02 pm

Any one who lives in Storm Lake or close to Storm Lake should go to this sick S.O.B sentancing on 11-Aug-2008 at the Buena Vista County Courthouse. Payne has asked for open sentancing. This means the Judge will listen to all that want to talk then decide what the sentance should be. He needs to do time.


So, basically, if I’m reading this right, he’s throwing himself on the mercy of his peers. Hence the trying to keep a low profile (I take it), the acting like everything’s normal, the charm: he doesn’t want the pitchforks and torches, he wants to show up there and be all “aw shucks” and hope for a slap on the wrist. Is what I’m getting from that.

Seems like it’s probably worked for him in the past; apparently there are other charges pending from the university he’s at–child porn on the computer, alleged by the commenters at ET, although that’s not official yet apparently–and the same commenters were also pretty clear that this is an ongoing problem at the university, shit like this getting swept under the carpet.

If you look at his vlog (latest entry about Independence Day; the article about his guilty plea came out on July 2. He's...well, see for yourself, how he presents himself, would do for a court. Smooth. He's 22, and clearly an ambitious little thing, probably well-heeled and reasonably well connected as these things go.

I…would not let this one go.

53 comments:

jfpbookworm said...

*boggle*

Can we stop making folks like this our examples of feminist men? Please?

Celia said...

I wonder if he's one of those men that's so very "feminist" that he makes it his business to go to blogs and sites such as these and tell women off for not knowing what is truly the best thing for women.

What am I saying? Of course he is. And all that crying at porn nonsense - maybe I need to read it again, but the drama! The sensitive, understanding, in no way attention-seeking DRAMA! What a wanker. And that's even without the unpleasant sexual assault business. Though I frequently fail to be surprised when men who make a big show of how sensitive they are turn out to be creeps and manipulative abusers. Protesting, as you say, too much.

UneFemmePlusCourageuse said...

I followed the link from Ren's blog--Holy shit. Reading over there I expected this guy to be in his thirties or forties for some reason, for this event to be far behind him, for him to have discovered feminism as a way to repent for his actions. Not that that would in any way excuse what he did or make him any less creepy to me. But THIS? Oh my God, he is another midwesterner from my generation and a bloody hypocrite to boot. I feel sick.

Trinity said...

"Though I frequently fail to be surprised when men who make a big show of how sensitive they are turn out to be creeps and manipulative abusers. Protesting, as you say, too much."

Yep. Anyone reminded of... well, I don't want to name names because I don't want it to appear that I'm accusing anyone of assault, which I do not mean to do.

But... eh. I will say that I've met my share of men who adhere to this kind of very black-and-white feminism who sure seemed to have some rather restless skeletons in their closets.

Just to make it absolutely clear given JFP above, I don't mean "men who are feminists." I mean "men who follow very black-and-white feminisms that I believe are damaging to people of any gender."

belledame222 said...

yeah, I was very clearly specifying "male -radical- feminists," or pro-radicalfeminists or whatever this one's calling himself. there aren't more than a handful or so, but they sure are doozies.

ideologicallyimpure said...

What an absolute Nice Guy (TM).

Helen G said...

hi Kyle!
*waves*
Could I get your autograph? - I loved your last CD... and those gold hotpants? - like, w-o-w...
Oh wait, what?... Ohhh, I'm sorry, I thought you said Kylie...
Oops, my bad...
;)

Kim said...

Again, as I said at Ren's, "What the hell???"

Kim said...

Question: is he keeping that bit of info under the rug or is he claiming (a la Dubhe) that yes, he USED to be a male pig porn lover, but now he had been SHOWN THE LIGHT???

Renegade Evolution said...

Jill B & I are doing a radio show on this guy today (1pm est), she's invited him to join us.

jfP: There are male feminists I'd much rather see put up as examples, because hey, there are good male feminists/allies out there, but this guy has made quite a name for himself; leadership roles in feminist groups, has presented speeches and papers, been in the newspaper, so on...and NEVER even acknowledged what he did. He's still blogging away like nothing ever happened.

troubleinchina said...

I'm too tired to actually take in everything here, but wow, his writing style is very reminiscent of That Person We're Not Naming With His Chincillas.

Also, I feel very ill.

Is Ren's link SFW, or should I be a proper worker-bee and read that when I get home?

Kristen said...

Holy mother of mushrooms, are you kidding me?

Anyone else think he's just a sadist (in the non-consensual sense of that word) getting some vicarious thrill out of talking to and about victims of rape (and those he perceives as victims of rape)?

Creepy people like this need to be laser tagged so that we know to avoid them.

jfpbookworm said...

I didn't take it as an indictment of male feminists. I'm just sick of this particular subset of them.

I think part of the problem is that in some circles, if men declare themselves feminists there's pressure to not be "the fun kind" (because the only way to be accepted as feminist is to go to extremes?), and it's this sort of male feminist (Robert Jensen, for example) that seems to be getting all the press these days.

His failure to even acknowledge this in any way except for a cryptic "people are attacking me" way creeps me out. (I'm not sure, though, if a conversion narrative would be less creepy or more.)

belledame222 said...

JFP: yeah, I hear you, I feel the same way about the female feminists of a similar ilk (if not with this particular record).

Kim: nope, he just pled guilty a week ago, and at least if you look at his blog, not only his he still blogging as of the 4th of July, he hasn't even acknowledged that this has happened.

PhysioProf said...

Damn, that shit skeeves me the fuck out. Fucking weirdos.

I would never call myself a "feminist", because it's not my call whether I am or not. It's women's call. I try not to be a fucking misogynist asshole and do what I can to reduce gender inequity in my professional and personal life.

Making a big melodramatic display of tagging oneself with the "feminist" label seems like pretty transparent male cookie-seeking.

belledame222 said...

actually, this post over at Nine Deuce, while I kind of virulently disagree with a lot of other shit she has to say elsewhere, can't really argue with much of it:

http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2008/07/09/motherfucker/

or, well. I don't care what people call themselves. Especially if it's like, you know, someone asks in casual conversation, and the answer is, "Sure, I'm a feminist. Who wouldn't be for womens' rights?"

And I don't particularly love "yes-men," and don't agree that they're always necessarily better than men who'll argue. Although "presumptuous boor" does seem to be distinguished from "men who argue with me," which, yeah, okay sure. Still don't like sycophants, though; and even well-meaning but timid people who just want to "do the right thing" tend to get on my nerves after a while, because I feel like I don't know what they're actually thinking, more like they're agreeing just cause they don't want to get me or whomever mad, you know.

but I agree that people who put themselves at the center of someone else's movement, make a career out of activism, that sort of thing, are already pretty suspect in my book, even if I obviously don't automatically assume that they're for fuckssake creepy rapists like Kyle here. -spits-

corey said...

The revelations about this dude do not surprise me at all. I remember the first time I had to wrap my head around the fact that an id'ed abuser made his living as a counselor at a batterers intervention group. Seems like so long ago,when that was actually shocking, but it wasn't. My only hope is that the fact that this asshole is being called out widely provides some validation for his victim.

Purtek said...

Kristen - yep, that's exactly what I think. Honestly, I struggle to even call him a hypocrite, because I think it's an insult to all the truly self-deluding hypocrites that are out there.

belledame222 said...

Well, I hope it's more than being called out; I hope he actually does some time, but I have a sinking feeling that he may well get off with a wrist tap. The article said

Payne faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $7,500. As a condition of the plea deal, the state has agreed that no other charges will be filed as a result of this incident. Sentencing has been set for Aug. 11.

-Maximum of five years; but what are the odds? He may well not get any time at all, or probation, given what a good little boy he seems to be, you know. As per the fine--he already seems to have posted the $11,500 bail from before with no sweat. I doubt even the maximum will cause him pain, if he gets it. And look how he plea bargained: dropping all other charges. Which means there -were- potentially other charges. So...

belledame222 said...

I mean it's interesting to speculate about his twisted little mind there, and I could guess--the term "compartmentalizing" might apply. He's not responsible for the "bad" stuff he does because he's stuffed it away in a neat little box. He certainly seems sort of terrifyingly un-self-aware, for all his navel gazing: like I said, that thing about never getting angry (at least in a -masculine- way, right) set all my red flags off. That's someone who's deeply split off from himself, and so yeah, being able to do shit like this and yet still maintain the sanctimonious image doesn't entirely surprise me.

ultimately though, it doesn't much matter. He did what he did, he'll probably do it again if he can get away with it, and...yeah, at minimum, he -really- needs his credibility shot to shit, even if one can't force the sentencing issue.

El Squidge said...

Wasn't Ted Bundy a rape crisis counselor or something like that when he was in college? Any true crime aficionados know if I'm remembering that correctly?

belledame222 said...

hey, welcome, el squidqe (great login).

did not know, am not a true crime fan, but googling reveals a few links where: yep.

He [Bundy] had worked as a volunteer counselor at a rape crisis hotline (Rule, 1991).

-shudder-

Don't know if he was ever a Radical Feminist Sympathizer/Activist, though. not that it matters.

yeah, this looks less savory all the time, doesn't it.

And the thing is--this guy, if you look at the vlog, he's just -so- boy-next-door, there.

belledame222 said...

...oh, that's right, I forgot: Bundy also Blamed The Porn, didn't he.

http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/2813/bundy_1.html

In January of 1989, the state of Florida put Ted Bundy to death in the electric chair. The night before his execution, Bundy granted one last interview to Dr. James Dobson, a known anti-porn activist and a member of the Meese Commission on pornography.

Bundy claimed in this last interview that pornography drove him to serial murder. Ever since then he has been the poster boy for the anti-porn faction.

But was Bundy telling the truth? Or was he pandering to anti-porn sentiment in order to stall his inevitable ride on "Old Sparky"?


I mean, in any case, yeah, because if there's one person whose testimony you want to rely on in building your political case, it's a sociopathic liar who never did anything that wasn't self-serving.

I guess y'know the theory is that deathbed confession is Teh Truth or something. but I mean: even if it didn't actually save his ass, why would one suddenly assume he's telling Dobson the truth instead of what he knew he wanted to hear? The latter's what he'd done his entire life.

belledame222 said...

TIC: I don't know who/what you could possibly mean *koff*, I mean such a thing would never cross my mind...

PhysioProf said...

I guess y'know the theory is that deathbed confession is Teh Truth or something. but I mean: even if it didn't actually save his ass, why would one suddenly assume he's telling Dobson the truth instead of what he knew he wanted to hear? The latter's what he'd done his entire life.

True dat. I see no reason to think that a sick-fuck wacked-out serial murderer whose entire life is based on violence, lies, deception, and hiding would suddenly decide to be truthful just before they are killed by the state. If anything, I would think someone like that would intentionally exploit the perception of increased truth value of such statements to tell as big a lie as possible as their last "fuck you" to society.

Daisy said...

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offourpedestals said...

I keep trying to think of something intelligent to say about this, but I'm blank because TOO CREEPED OUT.

Thanks for helping put his feet to the fire, though, Belledame and Ren and everyone else. I'll pile on myself when I can quit shivering uncontrollably. I can't stop thinking, "If he's got wolf-in-sheep's-clothing down this pat at 22" . . . .

Aine said...

Since he's set himself up for 'peer sentencing' basically, people who live near there should get together and get a bus or something to that courthouse. Wish I lived close enough to do that.

belledame222 said...

Welcome, aine, and yeah, I am hoping that as far and wide as this is spreading, hopefully enough people in the area will see it to make a pilgrimage.

Ilyka: I hear ya. Yeah, and I know I keep saying it, but seriously: his vlog? aw shucks, butter wouldn't melt. he's gonna keep right on schmarming and abusing his way through the world even in the unlikely event he does actually see the inside of a jail cell for this. and refining it, you bet.

Jon said...

Uh, "Heh" back at you. I thought maybe the guy was subtle but then I checked back here and saw his vlogs. Eeeww. Thanks though, seriously, I have this idealistic side to me and it is way too easy to believe my own bullshit. Little Kyle appears to be in love with his own bullshit. Good to keep in mind that I mostly come to feminists to listen, and no I don't mean that you should confide in me.

belledame222 said...

Yeah, I appreciated it, I just...also don't have much time for the painfully earnest navelgazing coming out of this. What you said was--to the point. He's a predator and a piece of shit. Bring on the pitchforks and torches. It's not that complicated.

Renegade Evolution said...

oh, and belle, thanks for helping me keep updated with the list of people calling him out.

eleanorstrousers said...

Thanks to everyone for spreading the word on this one. He is a creep of the first order. And I hope the young woman he victimized gets to see him punished for his crimes.

Jack Stephens said...

Wow, I'm sure psychologists will have a field day with profiling this sick little bastard. Hmmmmm...not sure what else to say other than keep up the good blogging belledame222.

belledame222 said...

Thanks, JS, and welcome.

ding said...

this Kyle incident is tickling a bell in my brain...

wasn't there another pro-woman, seemingly radical progressive male blogger from a few years ago who was arrested for deliberately engaging in unprotected sex with women while keeping his compromised health status a huge secret in some midwestern/western community? he went by the name of The Something-Something Atheist? or something like that?

belledame222 said...

Huh. Not ringing any bells, but could be...

Kenneth said...

I know that this is really none of my buisness, I found out about this guy yesterday and I couldn't help but see if there was a way I could help punish him.

I have created a wiki in his dishonor. Which you may edit at your will, writing is not my thing and I hope wikipedia doesn't take it down. Lets set a example for people like him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_payne

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Unknown said...

An Update on this Kyle payne creep.

http://www.safercampus.org/blog/2010/08/sadly-an-update-on-kyle-payne/

In short it says in 2010 he was rearrested on charges of child porn.

Unknown said...

An Update on this Kyle payne creep.

http://www.safercampus.org/blog/2010/08/sadly-an-update-on-kyle-payne/

In short it says in 2010 he was rearrested on charges of child porn.

Unknown said...

Also here is the link to Kyle Payne's new blog as a sex offender rehab counsler.

http://kylepayne.wordpress.com/tag/kyle-payne/

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Kyle payne on the sex offender registry.


http://www.iowasexoffender.com/aliases/15602/?lastname=Payne&firstname=Kyle&type=simple#Aliases