Also:

...from that same feministe thread, this musing:

[quote from Dawn Eden site]:

This male chauvanist pig will jump to the defense of any woman who is in trouble. If I come across someone attempting to rape a woman, I will immediately try and help her, putting my safety and possibly my life on the line.

However, if a woman wants to act like a man, I will treat her like a man


[quote from feministe commenting on the above]:


So, if he comes across a man being assaulted, he’s going to ignore it? That’s what treating someone like a man means?

***

and i said:

Well, yah, exactly. Sort of doesn’t make being a man sound too terribly attractive, does it?

I wonder how many of these macho macho men are the same ones that secretly dream of being “taken in hand” themselves. Panties, submission, cruel wonderfully cruel women and themselves eventually made to be on the other end of the “real men’s” ambiguously “chivalric” behavior. Watch “the Bodyguard” over and over, you know, try convince themselves that no they really only want to BE Kevin Costner, really.

and then of course in the harsh light of day go (at least verbally) beat the crap out of a “faggot” or “girlie man” or “emasculating woman.”

I mean: women don’t have to worry about anything, right? Just sit back and look pretty and let the man do it all, right? Don’t worry your pretty little head, lie back and enjoy it.

Yah, it’s fucking enraging to be forced into that role, you betcha, when it’s not what YOU want.

But consider: the proponents of this scenario? Especially the male ones? Especially the ones who whine a whole bunch about how tough they have it and women are really in control and especially talk a bunch of strange longing-laced contempt about “princesses” and so on?

Maybe it’s just me, cause admittedly i am totally bent, but i do wonder what goes on deep down in there really, sometimes…